PC ports: good or bad for the Xbox 360?

[Yoshimax]

The thread title asks a question but the first post is not much more than having a pop at the 360 I presume because you don't like it.

I think all the posts which follow more or less answer your question

[Ajay1986]

lol all hail Brats for his 2 great posts.

Uli i really dont get you how can a few PC ports be showing the fall of the 360 even tho the system is selling really well and has lots of games coming. Shall i do you list

Dead Rising
Saints Row
Smackdown Vs Raw
Alan Wake
Blue Dragon
Brothers in Arms 3
CoD3
Dark Sector
The darkness
Pro Evo
Vampires Rain
Trusty Bell
Viva Pinata
Res Evil 5
GTA
Project Sylpheed
Halo 3
Gears of War
and god knows how many more.

These might not all be exclusives but how many games are gonna be exclusive anymore, the list is growing shorter and shorter this may well be down to production costs and devs and publishers wanting to make back as much money as possible. It really doesnt matter what the reason, it shows is that there is no lack of quality titles coming, yes you might not like them all but there is alot of good stuff.

Lol i dont really know what im trying to say anymore i just find your opinions rather strange, and the way you clearly hardly play something yet write it off straight away

[ExtremePabs]

Interesting thread this! For me I have a 360(infact pretty much all consoles going back to the NES) and a decent spec pc. I dont play pc games I did in the past but as someone said earlier I just cant be bothered to tinker with settings to get it things to run spot on and I cant stand having multiple disks or having to go through the hassle of installing games or come to think of it ahving download patches etc. Give me a console anyday just pick up the isk you wanna play and go no hanging around, its just far more convenient.
As for the 360 lineup I am really happy with it so far. I like PGR3, GRAW, PDO, Ridge Racer, Table Tennis, Oblivion, Prey and Call of Duty2. Admittedly I too have only scratched the surface on some of these but thats due to time constraints and reasonably steady flow of games that have interested me.
I am looking forward to Brothers in Arms, COD3, Halo3, Rainbox six 3 vegas and GOW.
At the end of the day you cant please all the people all the time and if you dont like the games dont buy the console, this has been my rule for years I just seem to find something on every console that I just need to play!!

[Canton Province]

Admittedly I too have only scratched the surface on some of these but thats due to time constraints and reasonably steady flow of games that have interested me.

Don't worry. Apparently it's O.K to praise a game you've only scratched the surface of.

[MikeRox]

Thats's unfair though, SEGA had over 9 months to make sure it got the software ready for the Pal launch of the DC, M$ had 2 weeks and then another 2 weeks for the Jp launch

PS and Saturn users had to wait bloody ages for good software to come after thier domestic launches , the same was true for Mega Drive , DC, Snes and it took for ever for good software to come out for the N64, PS2 and Mega CD after thier domestic launches. So why does anyone think it will be so different for the 360 or PS3 when developments times and budgets are now so massive I just do not know .
Even the DS took a bit of time to get going after it 1st shipped in Japan

Much like moaning about PC ports (which are a good thing) and trying to make out its just a 360 problems, when I remember SEGA and SONY fighting for the rights over Command and conquer ect. Just looking to find faults

Think you missed my point m8, I was trying to say that the Xbox 360 isn't the only console thats had a dry spell after launch The reason for it being different for the DC by that point in Japan was because it had already had it's dry spell seeing as it came out in 1998 there. It wasn't a dig at the 360 at all, more trying to show people that were getting at it that it's hardly the first console to have a strong launch then a dry spell.

Plus it's also the summer drought, even the DS has no major releases now for nearly 2 months.

[Team Andromeda]

Think you missed my point m8, I was trying to say that the Xbox 360 isn't the only console thats had a dry spell after launch The reason for it being different for the DC by that point in Japan was because it had already had it's dry spell seeing as it came out in 1998 there. It wasn't a dig at the 360 at all, more trying to show people that were getting at it that it's hardly the first console to have a strong launch then a dry spell.

Plus it's also the summer drought, even the DS has no major releases now for nearly 2 months.

Oh sorry and I didn't mean for it to look like I was singling you out as well. Just that?s as DC owner from the JP Launch there were massive caps in the release schedule, and the same goes for almost every console I?ve owned bar the X-Box .

People seem to conveniently forget the massive gaps in good software coming out for consoles like the DC, PS, Sat, N64 and the Cube just after launch and the less said about the PS2 and Mega CD the better It's not as if the Snes or Mega Drive were awash with top titles 6 months after launch too.

Love to know why people expect it to be any diff for the 360 or PS3 and why PC ports are now a bad thing, when back inthe DC days ect it was a selling point. Seems a excuse to bash the 360 if you ask me

[Ajay1986]

Don't worry. Apparently it's O.K to praise a game you've only scratched the surface of.

Hmmmmmm i dont think anyone is doing that the point is with Chromehounds at least many of us HAVE played the full game and realise that it is very good online, yet people that have only played a demo write it off without giving it a go.

[MikeRox]

Love to know why people expect it to be any diff for the 360 or PS3 and why PC ports are now a bad thing, when back inthe DC days ect it was a selling point. Seems a excuse to bash the 360 if you ask me

Yeah I completely agree, and in the case of the Jap DC launch it wasn't as if the actual launch lineup was overly stellar either. A criticism I really can't level at the 360 as I'm still really enjoying PGR3 and RR6 online even now.

[Uli]

That's exactly what I'm saying. The profile tells no lies, even games you play offline will register once you go online. Why on earth would anyone have a second profile to play games that they never play on their own profile. Your comments about demo pods are ridiculous. You can't have a thorough opinion on a game from a demo? It's like listening to someone's opinion on a film from the trailer.

Brats, i don't doubt that you can get these information from the profile. all i am saying is that these informations can be pretty much incomplete. so, of course, you can go on and judge my or any other 360 gamer's gaming experiece by only looking at their online gamer profile, but just don't believe to get the whole picture everytime.

I'm merely calling you out on your claim about the 360's exclusive line up, a claim that went much further than just your own opinion to the point where you were implying that categorically the 360 had a poor line up.

i think you got me wrong. i said i love my 360, have fun with some great games on it, look forward to some of the forthcoming games you look forward to as well (did you read this as well?) BUT that the line-up of exclusives still leaves much to be desired. nothing more and nothing less. and from my understanding of the english language the latter doesn't mean that the 360 line-up was categorically poor. you implied this Brats - not me.

but to make my point clear: the 360 line up already offers a lot and the few exclusive titles are by no means bad. but there's still no real killer app (exclusive AAA-games that drastically pushes hardware sales - just to agree on the meaning of this term) but there should be! and this corresponds pretty much with what the majority of informed gamers and gaming media thinks - at least here in germany.

[Canton Province]

Hmmmmmm i dont think anyone is doing that the point is with Chromehounds at least many of us HAVE played the full game and realise that it is very good online, yet people that have only played a demo write it off without giving it a go.

Well, I've only played the demo, and I personally think it's rubbish. Am I gonna get bitched at too because I'm able to assemble game play mechanics just from playing the demo, which I don't like?

[Kron]

Love to know why people expect it to be any diff for the 360 or PS3 and why PC ports are now a bad thing, when back inthe DC days ect it was a selling point. Seems a excuse to bash the 360 if you ask me

WinCE ports of PC games were never a selling point on the DC ft:

The 360 is quickly turning into little more than PC Lite and is just highlighting how sterile the worst parts of todays industry are, Its nothing more than a chart machine with a couple of token gestures. It's specialising in western software because thats all that the majority of owners expect from it and have total apathy towards anything that doesn't sit in an incredibly shallow pool of genres that are expected to give a certain sales return each time.

Plus this new games journalism effect where people look only at whats considered to be a big hitter (or whatever moronic term) is creating an economy which doesn't support small and independant developers who want to try something new. And anyone who says Xbox Live as some kind of comeback really isn't able to look at anything objectively as the main stay so far is a couple of developers (US again) who have blatantly stolen ideas already available from certain developers who could do with the support themselves.

[Team Andromeda]

Well, I've only played the demo, and I personally think it's rubbish. Am I gonna get bitched at too because I'm able to assemble game play mechanics just from playing the demo, which I don't like?

The trouble is online is so much better , kind of like with Quake . Decent in single player mode, its like another game online and the online part adds so much to it , for me its along with Rainbow 6 the best fun I've ever had online
Demo's aren't always the best too, the Froza one of sh8t and it there was demo of the 1st level in Halo or the 1st couple of levels in Castlevannia IV I doubt many would have even looked at them twice .

[El Leone]

WinCE ports of PC games were never a selling point on the DC ft:

The 360 is quickly turning into little more than PC Lite and is just highlighting how sterile the worst parts of todays industry are, Its nothing more than a chart machine with a couple of token gestures. It's specialising in western software because thats all that the majority of owners expect from it and have total apathy towards anything that doesn't sit in an incredibly shallow pool of genres that are expected to give a certain sales return each time.

Plus this new games journalism effect where people look only at whats considered to be a big hitter (or whatever moronic term) is creating an economy which doesn't support small and independant developers who want to try something new. And anyone who says Xbox Live as some kind of comeback really isn't able to look at anything objectively as the main stay so far is a couple of developers (US again) who have blatantly stolen ideas already available from certain developers who could do with the support themselves.

So basically the x360 sucks and you'd rather play on your PC? And that the western market is da c0py C/\Ts and is killing da gaming industry, coolz.

[Team Andromeda]

WinCE ports of PC games were never a selling point on the DC ft:

The 360 is quickly turning into little more than PC Lite and is just highlighting how sterile the worst parts of todays industry are, Its nothing more than a chart machine with a couple of token gestures. It's specialising in western software because thats all that the majority of owners expect from it and have total apathy towards anything that doesn't sit in an incredibly shallow pool of genres that are expected to give a certain sales return each time.

You tell to people waiting for the likes of Half Life and Black and White ect, and SEGA Japan used to say it could port PC games in under 4 weeks as a selling point . The trouble was it never happend and the DC got some sh8t ports or just adverage games, though I loved Incoming myself
When it should have been enjoying the best the best PC had to offer , same goes for the Mega CD when it should have been getting the best of the Lucas Arts classics ect .

As for the point about western software what do you epect give the sales of the system in Japan and the fact thats its a USA system and you just taking bull when calling it a PC light.

[Team Andromeda]

So basically the x360 sucks and you'd rather play on your PC? And that the western market is da c0py C/\Ts and is killing da gaming industry, coolz.

Yeah funny that given that the PC is a meccaa for western style games