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    #91
    The magazines are their own worst enemies. One of them will do a few features on say AC for a year leading up to release, gush about how it will be the next big thing, then give it a lukewarm review.

    Although they wouldn't be playing finished code, you'd have thought they would get a bit of an idea between the gushing and the review.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
      What I find with reviews is that if 3 magazines give a game a 9 and one gives it a 7, to me it usually turns out that the 7 review is right no matter what the source is. It seems easy for reviewers to get blinded by gloss or hype or whatever and give a score higher than a game really deserves and there's usually more straight up honesty in the lower reviews.
      I don't know about that. I can think of loads of games that have scored low in one mag and have been completely out of what most people still consider the 'correct' score to be. PGR2 and Rallisport 2 both scored 6/10 in Edge in tiny reviews that didn't mention any of their strong points (like the online in PGR2).

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        #93
        Originally posted by Brats View Post
        I think it just boils down to the entertainment value. Sometimes you need innovation for a game to be entertaining, other times you don't. COD4 is a great example of a game that is polished until it beams like a minature sun, but it doesn't do anything new.
        COD4 is a good example.....a few years ago i would have really enjoyed it but having played so many war fps games i just bored of it very quickly

        but for someone who say has recently been turned to FPS games and this is the first time they have played a war fps game then it must seem a really great game

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          #94
          Originally posted by B1gBeard View Post
          The magazines are their own worst enemies. One of them will do a few features on say AC for a year leading up to release, gush about how it will be the next big thing, then give it a lukewarm review.

          Although they wouldn't be playing finished code, you'd have thought they would get a bit of an idea between the gushing and the review.

          havent read many mags in a while now just pc gamer

          but when i used to i always got confused by prioritys cos i would say see one game get a 60% score but a two page review and another game say get a 80% review but only have a page or half a page

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            #95
            Originally posted by Brats View Post
            I don't know about that. I can think of loads of games that have scored low in one mag and have been completely out of what most people still consider the 'correct' score to be. PGR2 and Rallisport 2 both scored 6/10 in Edge in tiny reviews that didn't mention any of their strong points (like the online in PGR2).
            I think PGR2 got a 7...not that it makes much difference to your point.

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              #96
              EDGE review of Mass Effect is a joke , not becasue of the score, but becasue of the the pointles rants and references to Star Wars . You know EDGE , I guessed by looking at the title, that’s its sod all to do with Star Wars , You'll like to think a so called professional reviewer would realise the same ???.

              What a joke of a review

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                #97
                Originally posted by MonkeySteve View Post
                I think PGR2 got a 7...not that it makes much difference to your point.
                But they put it into the Top 100 games ever - as long as a review and score is intelligently and thoughtfully backed up, what does it matter what it's given?

                I thought all the points made about ME were very relevant, Team Andromeda. Sums up what I've been hearing from friends about it exactly.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Team Andromeda View Post
                  EDGE review of Mass Effect is a joke , not becasue of the score, but becasue of the the pointles rants and references to Star Wars . You know EDGE , I guessed by looking at the title, that?s its sod all to do with Star Wars , You'll like to think a so called professional reviewer would realise the same ???.

                  What a joke of a review


                  The Star Wars references take up a small paragraph at most, and it's a valid point when a) Bioware's most celebrated game happens to be a Star Wars one and b) they are attempting to create a sci-fi epic with a rich and detailed backstory. Read in the context of the rest of the review, the SW comparisons make sense.

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                    #99
                    Still, it is kind of odd that they'd criticise a game just for not being Star Wars, no?

                    Even if it is from a team who've worked on Star Wars games in the past. I thought magazines such as Edge would welcome a new setting instead of a sequel. And if it WAS a sequel, we all know that Edge would criticise them for not attempting anything different.

                    They just can't win I tells yers.

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                      That Mass Effect review is just another example of engineered games journalism. Build em up and knock em down. Even the review admits it's focusing on the negatives. This stems from 'disappointment rather than disdain.' Well get a bloody grip during the preview stages, then! Have some perspective rather than gushing anticipation. It's fighting a losing battle against the hype-mongers.

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                        Originally posted by crocky-chocky View Post
                        Still, it is kind of odd that they'd criticise a game just for not being Star Wars, no?

                        Even if it is from a team who've worked on Star Wars games in the past. I thought magazines such as Edge would welcome a new setting instead of a sequel. And if it WAS a sequel, we all know that Edge would criticise them for not attempting anything different.

                        They just can't win I tells yers.
                        But they're not criticising it for NOT BEING Star Wars. Read (or re-read) the review and maybe you'll understand the context they are referencing it in.

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                          Originally posted by MonkeySteve View Post


                          The Star Wars references take up a small paragraph at most, and it's a valid point when a) Bioware's most celebrated game happens to be a Star Wars one and b) they are attempting to create a sci-fi epic with a rich and detailed backstory. Read in the context of the rest of the review, the SW comparisons make sense.
                          No it doesn't becasue it no Star Wars, Its like Slating Terminator because its not BladeRunner. The review was just nonsense, like most of EDGE reviews these days . I’ll hate to see EDGE reviews the original Star Wars films, they’ll be moaning there’s no Buck Rogers in there.

                          Still EDGE at least got the scores right for Half-Life OB, Mario G and Bioshock (one of the few to get that one right) . Which is somthing I suppose


                          DMC should hve got a 5 from EDGE , because it no Resident Evil , what a ****ing joke

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                            Originally posted by Swallow
                            Christ man, get a grip. Given the level of wit shown in your posts I would love* to read some of your reviews.
                            Well it might be going over the top but one would like to think EDGE would be a bit better than this given that its like to be seen as the more Professional magazine that can’t lower its self to review yearly updates half the time.

                            EDGE always loves to be hypercritical half the time , I’m sure like some says , it’s done just to wind people up . Be that reviewing the yearly update of Pro Evo and not marking it score down for offering nothing new or picking a good game to give a low to average score or now Mass Effect .

                            Read the Mass Effcet review and then go back 2 pages to read the Assassin Creed review. Now there’s a game that is made by the Prince of Persia Team s hares many common elements and for good measure takes has a eastern setting too. You don’t see the review harping on how this isn’t POP .

                            When I play Dead Rising I can see when the inspiration come from , but I’m not expecting Tom Savini and co to come crashing in on their moto bikes nor am I expecting it to play like Resident Evil even though its made by the same corp . Simply because Resident Evil isn’t mentioned in the title anywhere.

                            Now is that a little bit of wit , or common sense ?

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                              Neither.

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                                Originally posted by Kotatsu Neko View Post
                                The frame rate is a *little* wobbly in places but it's far from terrible, and I can't comment on the driving bits as I haven't got that far yet. As for the menus, well... it's an RPG... What do people expect! Of course it's full of menus and text and stats and levelling up and equipment screens. Goes with the genre and if that's not what people want they shouldn't buy RPGs in the first place.

                                I menat they said that there were loads of RUBBISH menus, not just loads of menus, they didnt go into why they were rubbish, just said they were.

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