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    #76
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    In all honesty, I have seen a few films on the PSP and I think that is very good, I wouldnot watch action stuff but for TV and a lot of films, the quality of the screen and display is great. Are phones worse? People seem willing to spend tons on their phones so they must be pretty good. 2" does seem quite small. I would not do that with my phone cos a) it probably does not do it and b) it canes the battery meaning the phone can't be used for its purpose.
    [setup]
    I agree about people liking what they are told - most places I go where people have new TVs, they are poorly set up or not set up. Default settings are so clearly "bright for sales". But they are still proud of it and tell me it is better than anything else. Simple issues like composite, even if you don't notice it on moving pictures should be instantly recognised when the text displays come up. I am also shocked at the number of people that watch squashed 4:3 on their 16:9 (even where a 16:9 is selectable) and don't realise that it is squashed. Went to one house where they would not even believe me, even after an A/B switch. Mental.

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      #77
      Yes, and the industry only has itself to blame over this mess. There are so many options on a TV that let (and ENCOURAGE!) the user to screw the picture up, so much so that a lot of people are scared to touch the settings and learn what they do.

      So we have a huge company like Sony pushing Blu-ray Disc, touting the fantastic quality it's capable of, and also selling BRAVIA TVs which come configured to make said discs look like electrical vomit. One hand doesn't seem to have a clue what the other is doing.

      Went to one house where they would not even believe me, even after an A/B switch
      I've had this before too, after showing someone calibrated Greyscale. They insisted that the blue-tinted whites were correct because it's what they'd been conditioned into watching. Then I held a piece of white paper up to the screen, showed them both settings, and asked them which one looked more white now.

      In fact, someone I know in the US has one of those 60" Sony SXRD rear projection TVs, which he runs on said electrical vomit mode. When I told him some basic steps to make it more accurate, he said, "I dunno man, it looks so weak. The whites look grey". Yep, instead of blue...

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        #78
        I don't know if people like what they are told. I can see someone who likes gadgets and keeping up with the latest tech could be more susceptible than an average person. David Lynch and others lambasting about people watching films on their phones forget that people do this because of the versatility of it, especially as more people commutte on trains than ever before.

        No-one is telling people to wtach films on phones, but they are doing it because they want to. They'd rather watch a film than read a book.

        I think people like HD tellies because they like them to be thin and the like them taking up less room in the living room, not because they are being told that they must like HD.

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          #79
          No-one is telling people to wtach films on phones, but they are doing it because they want to. They'd rather watch a film than read a book.
          Does that really matter though? It's versatile to eat your dinner while you're sitting on the toilet, but who does that?

          It depends where we draw the line on how sheep-like people are, if I was being really cynical I could argue that people don't really have a burning desire to watch films on their phones at all, they're doing it because the option is available to them and they have money to burn...

          Then there is "HD" Video on YouTube: http://www.lyris-lite.net/2008/07/27...yll-agree.html (I wrote this before it was actually possible to have anything resembling HD video on YouTube, BTW).
          Last edited by Lyris; 07-01-2009, 13:03.

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            #80
            Originally posted by Lyris View Post
            Does that really matter though? It's versatile to eat your dinner while you're sitting on the toilet, but who does that?

            It depends where we draw the line on how sheep-like people are, if I was being really cynical I could argue that people don't really WANT to watch films on their phones at all, they're doing it because the option is available to them and they have money to burn...
            There are alternatives though, like reading a book or listening to music or podcasts. Would you begrudge anyone from watching a film on a plane, displayed on a tiny screen on the back of the person in front's chair?

            A common complaint heard nowadays is that people don't have enough time to fit in everything they want to do. If they are going to be stuck on the tube for an hour every day anyway, they might chose to get some film viewing in during this period. Others will read a book, listen to music or some will just comtemplate the universe. I don't think there's anything sheep like about it.

            Going to the bog doesn't take that long (usually) and eating on the throne is pretty disgusting to most people (more than watching a film on a small screen anyway) so it's not the same thing. I'm sure some people still do it though.

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              #81
              Advance Wars used to make my ass crust up. I had to Lynx my arse many a time due to that game, good times.

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                #82
                I don't think you're wrong, that's why people do it, but they are missing the whole point of film. It's supposed to be a cinematic experience, you're meant to be in the world. That's why I'd understand them doing it with TV-like content more, the fact that people can watch films that way suggests that they're missing the point.

                But would I begrudge them from doing so? Not at all, they're totally within their rights to do so of course! In fact, we have another organisation here that tells adults what they can and can't see

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                  #83
                  When I emigrated I had to reduce my entire DVD collection into MP4 files to store on a portable hard drive - for a year and a half my only means of watching this stuff was via my PSP. It was fine if I was able to watch in a quiet, dark place with the headphones.. in fact the PSP was a lifesaver in that regard. I wouldn't want to go any smaller though (phones and such).

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                    #84
                    To be fair, watching on a PSP, for me, is a better experience with decent headphones than watching it on most other people's TVs. Colours are good, picture is excellent, I can encode like a non-cripple, sound is beefy enough etc etc.

                    btw, i think we have gone off-topic!

                    Sonys BR and Bravia bits may not know what they are each doing but they are trying to achieve different things with their settings. Sony's TVs (or any TV's defaults) have to catch attention in the environment in which they will be sold. And that is a brightly lit supermarket or superstore. Specialist dealers may have the ability to recognise what settings work, but most will be displayed at default.
                    Last edited by saif; 07-01-2009, 15:03.

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                      #85
                      i went into Currys the other day to look at Cookers (oooohh exciting) the TV section was dark. Infact i can't remember the last time i saw any well lit TV sections except in supermarkets.

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Concrete donkey View Post
                        I'm a 'is that it?' person when it comes to HD.
                        I find nothing wrong with my 480p capable tv and don't intend upgrading till it brakes.
                        I know a few people you had the same mindset as yourself, they kept saying "I don't need a HDTV yet" or "There is no difference between DVD and Blu-Ray". A few months later they all owned HDTV's and started getting into Blu-Ray, they are loving the difference now.

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                          #87
                          Originally posted by ezee ryder View Post
                          I know a few people you had the same mindset as yourself, they kept saying "I don't need a HDTV yet" or "There is no difference between DVD and Blu-Ray". A few months later they all owned HDTV's and started getting into Blu-Ray, they are loving the difference now.
                          I was going to put:

                          Maybe he was a really really early adopter and has a 480P capable Plasma TV and is just bitter all this HD nonsense came along

                          Then i read his post

                          So i'll just put:

                          He is just bitter all this HD nonsense came along

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                            #88
                            If I only had a PSP, I'd watch a movie on that. But as Lyris says, films are a cinematic experience. I'm of the opinion my 40" LCD is too small, it just can't compare to a decent cinema.

                            Ezee, you always get people like that I'm afraid. Negative people, until they themselves have one then it's The Best Thing Ever. Never understood that mentality myself but there you go.

                            First time I played an HD DVD on my TV, I wasn't overly impressed; it was only when I went back to DVD that the difference really hit me. I ended up doing comparisons flicking back and forth between two sources. It's amazing how your eyes "accept" DVD as being amazing quality until you can do a direct comparison.

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Brats View Post

                              I think people like HD tellies because they like them to be thin and the like them taking up less room in the living room, not because they are being told that they must like HD.
                              Thats a good point. I know loads of people with the said HDTV and normal DVD/Sky etc.

                              I think another issue is simply that peoples priorities change. I used to be at the forefront of all technology but now im married with a child I have other needs for my money. Also personally im just not fussed about the whole HD aspect. It doesn't really do a lot for me but im not denying its good stuff.

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                                #90
                                I'm a 'is that it?' person when it comes to HD.
                                Come to my house! I have an effect on people who dare to pass through these doors.

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