Nintendo 3DS

[SUMIRE]

but it doesn't look a great deal better than the N64 version.

Yes, yes it does.

[Papercut]

The eshop has been out two weeks now and so far the Uk one hasnt recieved a single new DSIware game in all that time, anyone know why?

The Nintendo press releases seem to be saying that they are on the store, but I cant find them anywhere.

I'm pretty sure the new DSiWare stuff turned up yesterday.

You either need to look at new arrivals, or search DsiWare titles sorted by date.

[dvdx2]

Fair enough, though its deffinitley a massive improvment visualy, I actualy did my own little comparison at home, put the gamecube version on at the same time as this one, the differnce is astounding, you dont even realise how much has been improved until you compare them. It looks great, like how you remembered the N64 version to look, but in truth the N64 version doesnt look very good anymore, so the difference is a massive leap in reality.

I also think it just plays alot better as well, the Zelda games are a perfect fit for a handheld becuase of the way they are structured, they can be played in small doses as well as long runs. The gameplay does seem to have been tightened up quite a bit too, its not a stright port from a gameplay standpoint, it does actualy play alot better despite what tweaks there are probabaly only being minor

Also, isnt the version of master quest different on the 3DS than the one on the cube? I read there were differences.

you dont work for nintendo, do you? ;-)

I played it for about an hour last night, again and agreed it has some very nice graphical touches - but its the same game that has been out on several platforms for years (now on a handheld, albeit tidyed up and much sharper looking). It was pretty low res to begin with though, so the improvement is going to be much more noticable.

[gizmo1990]

This 3DS debate is a bit silly. Every console has a pretty lacking first 6-12 months, doesn't it? It's funny reading old topics and seeing people talk about a 360 drought. It's almost impossible to believe such a thing happened now. It's up to each individual to decide when something becomes worth buying in their eyes. That's it, basically, isn't it?

Good to see a little sanity, huzzah!

[Shozuki]

Ok, before I start I know im getting a reputation of being anti-Nintendo, but in truth its because they dont help themselves one bit.

They release hardware thats about as backward as possible, single touch screen, poor resolution, 1 slide pad, small buttons, poor battery life etc. But thats not the discussion here its Zelda, and the fact is its quite a lazy port onto the system. Graphically it looks how you remember it to in your minds eye, although of course it does indeed look a tiny bit better and has a better frame rate. But lets be frank here, this isn't an eshop release for ?14.99 or something its a full retail release. With that said its shoddy and day-light robbery. There is much they could have done to improve the game i.e. Bring the combat up to the modern standards, add a new dungeon, and at the very least make the graphics look far superior. Ultimately Nintendo took the decision to make this a quick money spinner and simply port the game over with minimal effort. What they should have done is treat it as a remake and give us value for money.

So I know im getting a bad rep when it comes to Nintendo on this forum, but read that and tell me I don't have a point...

[teddymeow]

Is it a quick money spinner though? Surely the cost of bringing the game up to scratch in 3D on a new piece of hardware is fairly expensive? Certainly with the work that's gone into creating the polygonal versions of inside buildings & certain backdrops that were once pre-rendered. Or the sharpening of textures. Or the tidying up of the character models.

I think it's a good addition to the 3DS library and an awesome opportunity for those that have never experienced OoT to play it.

I just hope they do Wind Waker.

[yesteryeargames]

You have a point but you wont get many to agree with you! i dont think theres anything wrong with the touch screen, single slider or the buttons ?. Only slight issue i have with the the 3ds is the battery life but ive learnt to dock the unit when not in use and not had a problem since. As for Zelda i think it looks beautiful and why change the gameplay or dungeons? the game is a masterpeice and the best game of all time i still stand by that.

[Dogg Thang]

But thats not the discussion here its Zelda, and the fact is its quite a lazy port onto the system. Graphically it looks how you remember it to in your minds eye, although of course it does indeed look a tiny bit better and has a better frame rate. But lets be frank here, this isn't an eshop release for ?14.99 or something its a full retail release. With that said its shoddy and day-light robbery. There is much they could have done to improve the game i.e. Bring the combat up to the modern standards, add a new dungeon, and at the very least make the graphics look far superior.

This is completely 100% wrong. The game has had a total graphical overhaul and looks fantastic. Wools posted a comparison that shows what you're saying to be simply incorrect - http://www.gamesradar.com/f/zelda-oc...16185448519088

That's far from a 'lazy port'.

[Shozuki]

its certainly not using the console full power though and theres no new content. Quite frankly I think you are just easy to please.

[speedlolita]

its certainly not using the console full power though and theres no new content. Quite frankly I think you are just easy to please.

You underestimate the Nintendo fanboy. What I think Shozuki is saying is that all Nintendo have had to do is overhaul the graphics and it's selling full price like hotcakes. I personally also think that's lazy, but then again I despise remakes.

[JSR]

This is completely 100% wrong. The game has had a total graphical overhaul and looks fantastic. Wools posted a comparison that shows what you're saying to be simply incorrect - http://www.gamesradar.com/f/zelda-oc...16185448519088

That's far from a 'lazy port'.

I disagree. The cost of remodelling existing art assets compared to making completely new ones are night and day. And that's basically all they've done for this game. While I love the end result, I objectively think it's a pretty cynical move.

[Dogg Thang]

You underestimate the Nintendo fanboy. What I think Shozuki is saying is that all Nintendo have had to do is overhaul the graphics and it's selling full price like hotcakes.

Then you've got to ask yourself why it's selling like hotcakes.

Might be a bit of a cop out to assume it's just 'Nintendo fanboys' buying it. Actually I'd get a bit of a kick out of being thought of as a Nintendo fanboy, given I've had the odd moment on here where Nintendo fans have stormed off in a huff for some of the things I've said about them, but the truth is that Zelda OoT is simply one of the best games in gaming history and, regardless of how easy or hard it was for Nintendo, the game looks massively better than the original. So it's a fantastic game that looks even better, now on a handheld for the first time and in 3D. How many selling points does it really need beyond that?

[Brad]

its certainly not using the console full power though and theres no new content. Quite frankly I think you are just easy to please.

I'm not easy to please. I'm very difficult to please. That's why I'm playing a remake of a 13 year old master piece rather than some modern tripe that simply isn't as good a game as this is. I'm not dissing all modern games BTW, I'm just saying that this game was, and still is, brilliant much better than most modern games still. That's not me bigging up modern Nintendo BTW. In some ways I'm criticising them. They don't have the confidence that they can make a new game that stands up well against OOT perhaps?

[BIG EDD]

Well I'm enjoying zelda on the 3ds once again it really is a well done re-master

[mekanor]

Ok, before I start I know im getting a reputation of being anti-Nintendo, but in truth its because they dont help themselves one bit.

They release hardware thats about as backward as possible, single touch screen, poor resolution, 1 slide pad, small buttons, poor battery life etc. But thats not the discussion here its Zelda, and the fact is its quite a lazy port onto the system. Graphically it looks how you remember it to in your minds eye, although of course it does indeed look a tiny bit better and has a better frame rate. But lets be frank here, this isn't an eshop release for ?14.99 or something its a full retail release. With that said its shoddy and day-light robbery. There is much they could have done to improve the game i.e. Bring the combat up to the modern standards, add a new dungeon, and at the very least make the graphics look far superior. Ultimately Nintendo took the decision to make this a quick money spinner and simply port the game over with minimal effort. What they should have done is treat it as a remake and give us value for money.

So I know im getting a bad rep when it comes to Nintendo on this forum, but read that and tell me I don't have a point...

You don't have a point