Bloodborne [PS4]

[dataDave]

I'm fine with 720, even 480, but 30fps is an eyesore no matter what the resolution - even on Pikmin 3 and ZombiU. Pikmin has lots of dreamy motion blur which helps a bit, and it's hardly fast-paced so not really noticeable.

I just think the shinies are massively over-done when a smoother experience is easily within grasp at the minor cost of texture resolutions and the like. You literally don't notice the fine detail unless you force the camera all the way in.

[Golgo]

Double Post

[Golgo]

I like fine detail. Gives environments more atmosphere. Nothing worse for spoiling immersion than crummy textures. As for 60fps: it has become a fetish and a mantra that I couldn't care less about. Now, I've got no work today, so this bloody postman can venture hurry up or he'll be feeling the back of my hand...

[dataDave]

In my opinion it should be the standard, given that's how things used to be in the 8-bit and 16-bit days, and continue to be on PC (and for the most part) WiiU. Have you ever played Super Mario World with a 1-frameskip? It's shizer.

There's fine detail, and then fine detail that even a 1080p resolution is incapable of picking up. That's just a waste of resources. Even at half the texture resolution I doubt these could be considered "crummy", you'd not even notice a difference.

They should at least give people the option. Anyway, this should be in another thread. Bloodborne is still great! (if choppy)

[Team Andromeda]

In my opinion it should be the standard, given that's how things used to be in the 8-bit and 16-bit days, and continue to be on PC (and for the most part) WiiU. Have you ever played Super Mario World with a 1-frameskip? It's shizer.

Not every game needs to be 60 fps - even though most actions games should granted . As a big Nintendo fan did it even bother you than none of the 3D Zelda's run at 60 fps, that the likes of Wave Race 64, Pioltwings 64 run at somthing like 22 fps, never mind the framerates to the likes of Golden Eye or Perfect Dark 64 .

To me Bloodborne looks stunning with a total atmospheric world, and just stunning art on display . I'm having more trouble with the insane difficulty of the game myself , thanto do any issues with the framrate (which 60 fps wouldn't change really)

[dataDave]

Those games were running on ancient tech, and we were yet to be spoiled by 60fps unless we went to the arcade, or had a PC. It's a little different.

[dvdx2]

Those games were running on ancient tech, and we were yet to be spoiled by 60fps unless we went to the arcade, or had a PC. It's a little different.

Didnt F-Zero x run at 60 fps?

[Team Andromeda]

Those games were running on ancient tech, and we were yet to be spoiled by 60fps unless we went to the arcade, or had a PC. It's a little different.

Well liked you pointed out, all 16 Bit games run 60 fps , so why didn't the N64 titles, which not only came after 16 bit but also 32 bit ? More Saturn games run at 60 fps than on the N64 and far more Saturn games run at 30 fps (which some of the best N64 games couldn't even manage ) . We can all play the 60 fps game when it suites us .

And I'll have a bet that the new Zelda will not run at 60 fps either

[PaTaito]

The fact is that every dev wants to get ahead visually. As a knock on effect we get all sorts of unnecessary garbage effects put to use, that potentially costs us a 60fps experience, and are not worth it in a month of sundays imo. 60fps is a beautiful feeling on screen, and the crap we get in its place is barely even noticeable...even with 20/20 vision on a big screen.

60fps(or close to) is easily attainable with the right amount of time and optimization.

But like everything else it seems these days...standards are not what they once were, not from the consumer or the producer.

[Neon Ignition]

My constant vibe with Froms games is that 60fps isn't really required but the lack of a consistent 30fps rate is the real issue. They're improving but there's absolutely no way the PS4 isn't capable of holding the framerate, its just not optimised enough in the game. By the sounds if thankfully doesn't get in the way of the gameplay much but they need to sort themselves out on that front

[PaTaito]

My constant vibe with Froms games is that 60fps isn't really required but the lack of a consistent 30fps rate is the real issue. They're improving but there's absolutely no way the PS4 isn't capable of holding the framerate, its just not optimised enough in the game. By the sounds if thankfully doesn't get in the way of the gameplay much but they need to sort themselves out on that front

The bigger picture is that the devs seem to follow suite and coin the same bull**** phrases when talking about performance.

If one is allowed to get away with releasing something substandard, all the others follow suite...lazy development is the norm now from everyone outside of say nintendo, id, naughty dog, platinum and maybe one or two others.

Around the time of the Silent Hill HD collection this really hit home.

[teddymeow]

I've taken the plunge and bought this.

Thanks to the Sainsburys Necctar points double up promotion it only cost me ?28 of actual money. Buying Bloodborne gave me a few extra Nectar points so I got a tenner off of Resi Revelations 2 on PS4 as well.

So ?46 in total for both games. I'm happy with that.

[dataDave]

Didnt F-Zero x run at 60 fps?

I'd hardly consider one single game to leverage the entirety of people's future expectations.

Well liked you pointed out, all 16 Bit games run 60 fps , so why didn't the N64 titles, which not only came after 16 bit but also 32 bit ? More Saturn games run at 60 fps than on the N64 and far more Saturn games run at 30 fps (which some of the best N64 games couldn't even manage ) . We can all play the 60 fps game when it suites us .

And I'll have a bet that the new Zelda will not run at 60 fps either

Yes. I don't care. 30fps, or less, is rubbish. Especially with today's hardware when I can get 60fps out of a GTX560m thanks to in-game graphics options.

Zelda, Bloodborne, Perfect Dark, Nights... I hold no bias.

Jesus. At least Taito got my point.

[Budge74]

Ok.
My 40 year old reflexes, patience, and time availability meant that Dark Souls was a no-go for me.
Will this be any different?
I want something good to play on my PS4 after I rinse GTAV again.

[MrKirov]

If anything, this is harder for most as there's no block/defend button.