The age effect

[Team Andromeda]

No, that would be Jumping Flash.

Oh yes it was too or maybe it was Clockwork Knight since it had '3D' polygon graphics

[Strider]

No one would ever make Ninja Scooter Simulator in today's market.
I still don't know if this is a good or a bad thing...

[Team Andromeda]

No one would ever make Ninja Scooter Simulator in today's market.
I still don't know if this is a good or a bad thing...

Or something like Pub Games , Brutal Sport and Speedball 2 (both of which I loved on the Amiga ) We'll never see the creative games we got on the like of Amiga even if many of them were rubbish lol

[Wools]

Many of us at Bordersdown have been around a while and have seen almost the entire history of gaming from genesis to current day. I wonder how our perception of a new game is altered by having pretty much seen every genre and game style, in 2D and 3D, with few games able to provide anything new apart from story and quality. Someone new to being old enough to play a new Call of Duty might be rather a lot more excited and have a deeper level of enjoyment than myself sitting down to play another iteration of something I've enjoyed a lot already in previous releases.

Maybe the same applies to cinema too - once you've seen zillions of films, things begin to seem all vaguely similar.

This is a tricky question to answer. In some ways I feel far more demanding on newly released games because I've been playing games since the Sega Master System and have played thousands in my time but I also feel more lenient on games as I've played games that required using DOS Prompts to get working or games that were only capable of displaying 32 colours at a time!

It's a case by case basis really. I do get tired of genres once in awhile, in the case of 2D Platformers their was so much drivel released during the SNES and Mega Drive era, it has to be really special for me to even pick it up. Rayman Legends was a beautiful game and I loved playing parts of it in Co-Op but as the level design became less special, I put it down quicker than I picked it up. It's harsh but once you've played games like Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and Super Mario World it feels like why bother unless you can beat that water mark?

On the other end of the scale you have had the time to give certain games in a genre the benefit of the doubt so many times that if you hate them all, you don't bother wasting your time with new releases. Japanese RPG's are the best example, I always hated the turn based combat (The real time combat in Zelda, Metal Slug & Gun Star Heroes is so good so no excuses!) and lengthy diatribes of text in the 16bit era so as the games kept being released and I kept putting them down, I now don't touch them with a barge poll. Which is a shame as I loved the music and story in a game like Final Fantasy VII but the gameplay itself rubbed me the wrong way I've never got pass disc 1.

The length of time I've been playing has allowed me to have a wider perspective and sense of progress than people just discovering Videogames for the first time currently have. Whereas they may not forgive a developer for releasing a game that does not solidly hit 60FPS at 1080p, I'll be far more accepting as I completed the final mission of Driver on the PSone back in 1999 when the frame rate was single digits!

Every so often I'll stare at amazement (The last time was probably playing Super Mario 3D Land in 3D for the first time) at what games are now doing, how far we've come and despite the **** Newspapers saying games were corrupting the youth, now everyone is a gamer. Kids don't expect anything less than to have Minecraft available to be played on their School PC's, Me and my friends were told off when we attempted to install Doom on the 486 on our year 5 PC.

[nakamura]

FFVII isn't 3D in the true sense. The same way Pandemonium isn't a 3D platform game like Mario 64.
The game is drawn using flat 2D images, it's no different to a top down game.

[Dogg Thang]

Or something like Pub Games , Brutal Sport and Speedball 2 (both of which I loved on the Amiga ) We'll never see the creative games we got on the like of Amiga even if many of them were rubbish lol

Papers Please, Monument Valley, 80 Days, Fez, Plague Inc, Proteus, Journey, The Room, Minecraft, Flower and a whole rake of other games disagree. The difficulty is that many of the really creative games are on a platform that some of us would like to disown.

[Team Andromeda]

Every so often I'll stare at amazement (The last time was probably playing Super Mario 3D Land in 3D for the first time) at what games are now doing, how far we've come and despite the **** Newspapers saying games were corrupting the youth, now everyone is a gamer. Kids don't expect anything less than to have Minecraft available to be played on their School PC's, Me and my friends were told off when we attempted to install Doom on the 486 on our year 5 PC

That what is really missing I think and thats the sheer amazment at what you are seeing on screen, not that game are bad . The days of being draw dropped at seeing VF 3 in the Arcades for the 1st time or the likes of RR running on a PS (even though I found the game to be pants) or running around in Mario 64 for the time are gone . These days you expect and take for granted a game to at least look good and have soild 3D.

FFVII isn't 3D in the true sense. The same way Pandemonium isn't a 3D platform game like Mario 64.

Yep FF 7 isn't 3D , and to me isn't even close to being one of the better RPG's on the system. Also what I hate about the likes of FF 7 (ok I only got to the 2nd disc or even the likes of Grandia, Skies of Arcadia is the 40 plus hours of gameplay .

To me RPG's and well any game should be around the 20 hrs or so mark. That well you keep a better track of the story and can also play other games in bewteen with out lossing track

[Team Andromeda]

Papers Please, Monument Valley, 80 Days, Fez, Plague Inc, Proteus, Journey, The Room, Minecraft, Flower and a whole rake of other games disagree. The difficulty is that many of the really creative games are on a platform that some of us would like to disown.

Well then the creative side is alive and well even with modern gaming . No issues with PC gaming hate Mobile gaming tbh though

[fishbowlhead]

You can argue that the creative side has diminished in recent years but it hasn't really, it's just shifted in different directions.

Take games like red dead redemption and assassins creed black flag. Both games put you in the shoes of a character that's amazingly animated, in a world that's brilliantly recreated and actually let you be a pirate or a cowboy for the first time. Neither game was possible in any way on a previous gen.

Want to go hunt a whale? Or take a prize and add ships and crews to your pirate fleet? Yep off you go.

Want to go russtle cattle or hide in wait and hold stage coaches up? Yep off you go, or just mosey on into town as the legendary loan gun man? Yep you can do that too.

All the previous gens have had their moments and provided great entertainment and experiences over the years, but I for one wouldn't want to regress, and in sure we will all get even more amazing experiences going forward.

That's the great thing about games

[Lebowski]

Papers Please, Monument Valley, 80 Days, Fez, Plague Inc, Proteus, Journey, The Room, Minecraft, Flower and a whole rake of other games disagree. The difficulty is that many of the really creative games are on a platform that some of us would like to disown.

i said a similar thing and got rolled eyes as a response yet he agrees with you, i think Team Androgynous is just bored today and wants an argument.

I don't get why people ignore an entire platform, take ios for every Monument Valley, there's a million candy crush's but i wouldn't go out of my way to not buy a device if there was stuff i was interested about on it. it's been this way on every console and computer since gaming began for every gem there's a 100 stinkers vying for your money too.

[charlesr]

Just going to reiterate that although it seems to have drifted in this direction, it was less about current gen game differences to previous gens and more about current gen people to new gen people

[nakamura]

I keep seeing about 'what you see on screen today'. Well I see buildings that don't crumble, doors you can't open, windows you can't smash.

But hey its all pretty.

[teddymeow]

FFVII is fantastic, it's every bit as good as VI because it's pretty similar. It all depends on the story you like better.
Grandia is better than both mind.

PS1 the death of creativity?

Music.
Fluid.
Vib Ribbon.
Bishi Bashi Special.
Point Blank.
Poy Poy.
Aquanauts Holiday.
Parappa.
Jumping Flash.
Devil Dice.
Kula World.

Net Yaroze.

Truly the death of creativity.

Bust-A-Groove!!

[Brad]

I keep seeing about 'what you see on screen today'. Well I see buildings that don't crumble, doors you can't open, windows you can't smash.

But hey its all pretty.

With you on this one mate. A 12" high "obstacle" that you can't climb over (I'm looking at you Alien isolation).

[kryss]

The removal of the feather power up from Mario Kart games was the end of gaming for me