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    Looks pretty bad IMO. The jaggies on the polygons look really bad. Like a PlayStation 2! Even at 1080p there's no sign of jaggies like that.

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      there are no scan lines here and its upscaled from native vga, hence the zoomed shots looking abit 'jaggie'. (The portrait pics are photographed 3 inches from the screen). At normal viewing distance it looks incredible, so much better than straight vga. The shot with the 2 characters gives a better idea and even it was taken way closer than normal viewing distance.
      Last edited by dvdx2; 14-11-2015, 07:04.

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        Originally posted by speedlolita View Post
        Wouldn't it be 640x480 to 1600x1200? Even then, 480 only goes into 1200 2 and a half times. Doesn't seem "perfect".

        I'm sure it looks dandy though.


        The geffen displays the vga signal properly. I am using a 16:10 monitor, so the scaling to 1600x1200 is native to A 4:3 display (Thats what i meant!)
        Last edited by dvdx2; 14-11-2015, 07:19.

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          Couple more from last night

          Last edited by dvdx2; 14-11-2015, 08:05.

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            Can anyone point me to getting my DC running through VGA on my Framister .

            Where can I buy the d terminal adaptor?. Any help or links would be greatly appreciated

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              Originally posted by Team Andromeda View Post
              Can anyone point me to getting my DC running through VGA on my Framister .

              Where can I buy the d terminal adaptor?. Any help or links would be greatly appreciated
              I think you need a Toro Dreamcast video box

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                Thanks for the reply .. I already have a DC VGA box was hoping they'll be some sort if VGA to D-Ternimal lead I could buy

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                  Originally posted by Team Andromeda View Post
                  Thanks for the reply .. I already have a DC VGA box was hoping they'll be some sort if VGA to D-Ternimal lead I could buy
                  dont think thats possible mate

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                    Oh well thanks anyway

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                      Originally posted by Team Andromeda View Post
                      Thanks for the reply .. I already have a DC VGA box was hoping they'll be some sort if VGA to D-Ternimal lead I could buy
                      There is a VGA to HDMI box that is very cheap and gives excellent results. I use one with my MAME set up. PC output via vga to the device then that goes to to the Framemeister via HDMI. Result? Arcade looking image from a PC on a modern TV at 1080p the box is so cheap at just under 3000 yen shipped. That's about 15 quid I'd imagine. The VGA to HDMI box is tinny, does not upscan or alter the image at all and can work without power on some devices. If you do need power is gets it via the standard micro USB to normal USB connection. Here's the one I bought
                      TSdrena VGA → HDMI 小型コンバーター[USBバスパワーで動作] (相性保証付き) HAM-CVHIUが変換アダプター・変換プラグストアでいつでもお買い得。当日お急ぎ便対象商品は、当日お届け可能です。アマゾン配送商品は、通常配送無料(一部除く)。

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                        You'll need a vga to component converter then use a d-terminal connector. Or as Yakumo says VGA to HDMI, will work great.
                        Last edited by Jamie; 16-11-2015, 22:11.

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                          Here's a crappy image taken with the phone of my mame PC running via the Framemister using the cheap vga to HDMI box.



                          The picture doesn't do the real image justice.

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                            Thanks very much all ordered

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                              Originally posted by Team Andromeda View Post
                              Thanks very much all ordered
                              from junkerhq

                              Your options for connecting the Dreamcast to the Mini are:-
                              1) Build your own sync combiner circuit and adaptor, by modifying VGA box or a SCART cable. There are some details of how to do this here [1].
                              2) You could use the ArcadeForge UMSA. This is a VGA to SCART adaptor originally designed for connecting the PC to a RGB SCART display for use with emulation software like MAME.
                              3) Use the Shynken/Kenzei adaptor and a Hanzo VGA box, which is specifically designed for this purpose. You can find more details about this by visiting this thread.
                              4) Use the Toro VGA Box. This VGA box features both a D-Sub15 and SCART output and allows all signals (240p to 480p) to be routed either to the SCART socket or the VGA/D-Sub15 socket.
                              5) Use an Extron RGB interface. These are extremely common on eBay. Make sure to get one with a D-SUB15 (VGA) style input and and not a 9 pin input. The interface will accept RGBHV from the Dreamcast and output RGBC via BNC connectors. You can then connect this into the Mini with either your own custom cable or a simple BNC to RCA adapter on the interface and a SCART to RCA adapter such as this one [2]. Be sure to turn the DDSP DIP switch ON whenever you send a 480i image through the interface.

                              New Framemeister users often ask if they should use a VGA to HDMI adaptor to connect the Dreamcast. This is not recommended. While this may seem the most simple way to connect the console, in practise this never produces results as good as the above method and introduces many other potential problems.

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                                Thanks very much

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