Xbox 360 NTSC-uk Gamerpoints Leaderboard

[Hulk Davidson]

Go for Project 8 next ET!

[Extra Terrestrial]

Go for Project 8 next ET!

I aren't the almost God-like figure you are on that game mate!



I sold both Call of Duty 3 and Project 8 when Crackdown was released so I cannot play them unless I ask one of my friends if I could borrow the game(s).

I thought I did quite well on Project 8 until you came along Mr. Davidson and to be honest, after playing Project 8 on my friends PS3, it is hard to 'go back' to the Xbox 360 pad when the Sixaxis feels more comfortable for the sort of game - very much like playing beat 'um ups or PES from the PS2/3 to the Xbox 360.

I think I'll carry on with Test Drive for a bit more longer then go from there.

[peeveen]

E.T was saying in another thread about how the difficulty of games are not taken into account by league tables.

Well, they are here ... the Weighted Gamerscore table is doing just that. I kinda thought it was well-publicised by now, but here goes, one more time.

The difficulty of each achievement is calculated dynamically by figuring out how many players of that game have got the achievement. If a lot of players have got the achievement, its value decreases proportionally.

For example, here are the top and bottom 5 games according to "weight".

750 SAMURAI WARRIORS 2
737 F.E.A.R.
712 Ridge Racer 6
701 Tony Hawk's Project 8
647 Rainbow Six? Vegas
...
87 King Kong
85 Pimp My Ride
82 Eragon
73 NBA 2K6
29 Madden NFL 06

The number indicates how many points your WEIGHTED gamerscore will increase by if you get 1000 "normal" points in those games.

[Extra Terrestrial]

Ah peeveen, thanks for explaining it to me although it seems this wasn't your first attempt at explaining the weighted scores; my apologies.

It seems that those with import games would benefit from this particular leader-board as seigfreid's profile clearly shows! I'm glad it is taken in consideration because it allows others to view it from a different perspective than the 'who has the highest...' discussion.

I love achievements.

[peeveen]

It seems that those with import games would benefit from this particular leader-board as seigfreid's profile clearly shows!

A game is only counted if there are more than 2 players with at least 5% of maximum points ... see, I think of everything.

[Kubrick]

It seems that those with import games would benefit from this particular leader-board

And also those who play unpopular games. SAMURAI WARRIORS 2 the hardest 1000 on the 360? I think not.

Presumably, it's "weight" is so high because only three people have played it, with two having done the required 5% for it to qualify for peeveen's system. Whereas, something like Football Manager 2007 or DOAX2 - equally unpopular games, but genuinely difficult (or at least time-consuming) 1000s, will carry no "weight" at all since not enough people have the required 50GS for them to be graded.

So the system isn't quite perfect. I'm not complaining though, because for the games that a reasonable amount of people have played, it does work well. There's no denying a 1000 score for F.E.A.R. and RR6 is quite rare.

Peeveen/DavidHolliss, keep up the good work as always, but a suggestion if I may.

Would adding another category or two that seperated Live Arcade games from retail ones be too much work? If so, forget it of course, but I think it would be interesting to see the completion percentages etc for XBLA games seperately, along with the usual stats.

[VR46]

Separate Retail and XBLA leaderboards etc would be nice yes, upto to peeveen and how much work it involves.

peeveen emails me the stats each week and I just post them, up so he does 99% of the leaderboard work.

[Chunky]

Was chatting to peeveen yesterday and he suggested that the 5% limit was to eliminate the appearance of demos - demos appear on your profile but don't provide gamerpoints. I think he said that retail demos can be distinguished but XBLA ones can't, and that's why the limit is there.

Still loving gamerpoints, have been completely uninterested in XBLA until last weekend, started playing Hexic and loved it. Got last achievement for 100 games last night which makes 200/200 for Hexic *proudly displays Grand Pearl Pooh-Bah badge* so i think i might delve into marketplace and find something else to try.

[peeveen]

So the system isn't quite perfect.

Of course there will be anomalies, but it's to be expected. This is a "ballpark" solution, and saves me hours of manual administration. I love achievements and stats, but not that much.

something like Football Manager 2007 or DOAX2

I should have been more specific: the list I gave above is not actually the top 5 hardest/easiest games according to the program ... the numbers are actually the weighted scores that some players have currently got in those games.

So if anyone managed to get any points in FM2007, those points would be weighted at 100% (provided there were 2 or more players).

And similarly, points in DOAX2 at the moment would be worth about 99%.

Separate Retail and XBLA leaderboards etc would be nice yes

I'll work on providing XBLA/Retail tables at some point, as spare time permits.

[VR46]

Scores for the last seven days.
All courtesy of forum member peeveen

Listed below:

- total score to date
- last weeks score and where the points came from
- number of achievements gained last week
- weighted gamerscore (explained below)

Full stats in the attachments.


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Total Scores
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Score Name
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46967 seigfreid007
33196 mathm0s
30240 ezee ryder
29775 Leonard Lau
29515 EvilBoris DX
28205 glosoli
26951 ExtremePabs
24692 Mark Owen
24527 Destrukt2006
24317 TheMarine1979
23914 MythJM
23483 Family Fry
23325 Stakers
21860 no substance85
21838 chopemon
21746 Brats
20605 Holliss360
20062 peeveen
19751 ItsThere
19043 booyabase
19029 AdCook
18789 Kubrick XL
18495 Nightswimming
18098 Mik3F
17953 Gradius57300
17605 KILLBOT v2
17211 Crimson Day
16715 Paulos G
16164 Yoshimax
16120 themanwithapc
15957 synthesthesia1
15237 KungFu Ramone
14295 Rubiq
14164 PeteJ
12405 neverevertrevor
12045 xXIShadowIXx
11526 Bleeders
10721 venom743
10681 Mr Field
8305 Rossco UK
8190 Pods and Wicky
7880 ChunkyKong
6395 SharkyOB
5452 JohnBeaulieu
4800 Legendary 10
1305 Unwell Cat



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Last Weeks Score Breakdown
* = calculated from xbox.com, may not be exact
==============================================

Score Name
-----------------------
1980 glosoli
.... TMNT (+1000, 23 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Full Auto (+450, 22 achievements)
.... Cloning Clyde (+200, 12 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Bankshot Billiards 2 (+170, 10 achievements)
.... Frogger (+140, 9 achievements)
.... Gears of War (+20, "Curb Appeal")
1055 TheMarine1979
.... Fuzion Frenzy 2 (+600, 8 achievements)
.... Tetris Evolution (+210, 11 achievements)
.... Crackdown (+160, 10 achievements)
.... Boom Boom Rocket (+45, 4 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+40, 2 achievements)
945 neverevertrevor
.... EA SPORTS FN 3 (+750, 6 achievements)
.... GRAW 2 (+65, 3 achievements)
.... NBA STREET Homecourt (+60, "Seeing Double")
.... Call of Duty 2 (+50, "Completed Training")
.... ICC Cricket 2007 (+20, 2 achievements)
795 peeveen
.... NFS Most Wanted (+735, 4 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Gauntlet (+40, 3 achievements)
.... Zuma (+20, "Coin Collector")
755 Stakers
.... GRAW 2 (+350, 17 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+210, 9 achievements)
.... LEGO Star Wars II (+180, 6 achievements)
.... Boom Boom Rocket (+15, "Honor Roll")
720 Holliss360
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+180, 11 achievements)
.... UNO (+115, 8 achievements)
.... Viva Pi?ata (+80, 4 achievements)
.... Bankshot Billiards 2 (+80, 4 achievements)
.... Meet the Robinsons (+80, 5 achievements)
.... PGR 3 (+75, 3 achievements)
.... Small Arms (+45, 2 achievements)
.... Gyruss (+30, 3 achievements)
.... Joust (+30, 3 achievements)
.... Boom Boom Rocket (+5, "Speeding Ticket")
660 xXIShadowIXx
.... PGR 3 (+340, 9 achievements)
.... Prey (+320, 17 achievements)
595 Leonard Lau
.... Test Drive Unlimited (+375, 22 achievements)
.... American Wasteland (+150, 15 achievements)
.... NHL? 07 (+50, 2 achievements)
.... Worms (+20, "Worm Community")
585 Kubrick XL
.... DEAD OR ALIVE 4 (+165, 9 achievements)
.... Splinter Cell D.A. (+130, 5 achievements)
.... Ridge Racer 6 (+100, "Secret Achievement")
.... Need for Speed? Carbon (+100, 5 achievements)
.... Gyruss (+90, 7 achievements)
464 seigfreid007
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+200, 12 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Cloning Clyde (+109, 5 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Need for Speed? Carbon (+55, 6 achievements)
.... Jetpac Refuelled (+40, 2 achievements)
.... Assault Heroes (+30, "Assault Hero")
.... Texas Hold'em (+20, "Winning Streak")
.... Test Drive Unlimited (+10, "SHARING CUSTOM CHALLENGES")
430 Rubiq
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+200, 12 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Just Cause (+120, 6 achievements)
.... Virtua Tennis 3 (+110, 4 achievements)
405 synthesthesia1
.... GRAW 2 (+240, 8 achievements)
.... Prey (+125, 11 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+40, 2 achievements)
370 Mr Field
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+140, 8 achievements)
.... BOMBERMAN Act:Zero (+135, 8 achievements)
.... Boom Boom Rocket (+60, 7 achievements)
.... NEW RALLY-X (+20, "Double Extend", COMPLETE!)
.... Worms (+15, "Hot Foot")
335 ItsThere
.... GRAW 2 (+195, 12 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+140, 6 achievements)
305 KILLBOT v2
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+200, 12 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... GRAW 2 (+105, 4 achievements, COMPLETE!)
300 Destrukt2006
.... Virtua Tennis 3 (+210, 11 achievements)
.... TigerWoodsPGATOUR?07 (+50, 5 achievements)
.... Jetpac Refuelled (+20, "Survival")
.... Assault Heroes (+20, "Speed Freak")
265 Family Fry
.... Guitar Hero II (+140, 6 achievements)
.... Small Arms (+45, 3 achievements)
.... Contra (+30, 2 achievements, COMPLETE!)
.... Boom Boom Rocket (+20, 2 achievements)
.... Crackdown (+15, "Untouchable Agent")
.... Worms (+15, "Challenges", COMPLETE!)
230 Nightswimming
.... Crackdown (+230, 9 achievements)
225 chopemon
.... NBA STREET Homecourt (+180, 3 achievements)
.... GRAW 2 (+35, 2 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+10, "Rock Snob Award")
200 Paulos G
.... Oblivion (+160, 12 achievements)
.... Crackdown (+40, "Master Agent")
200 ExtremePabs
.... Rayman Raving Rabbids (+50, "ROCK N ROLL RAYMAN")
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+50, 3 achievements)
.... Bionicle Heroes (+40, 2 achievements)
.... GRAW 2 (+35, 2 achievements)
.... Gyruss (+20, 2 achievements)
.... Need for Speed? Carbon (+5, "Online XP Level 4")
190 themanwithapc
.... Guitar Hero II (+160, 14 achievements)
.... Amped 3 (+30, "Sledding Merit Badge")
175 ChunkyKong
.... Full Auto (+125, 4 achievements)
.... Hexic HD (+50, 2 achievements, COMPLETE!)
170 booyabase
.... Guitar Hero II (+170, 7 achievements)
170 Yoshimax
.... Guitar Hero II (+130, 5 achievements)
.... Full Auto (+25, "Tough Guys series")
.... Crackdown (+15, "Untouchable Agent")
150 EvilBoris DX
.... Guitar Hero II (+110, 5 achievements)
.... Small Arms (+30, 2 achievements)
.... Castlevania: SOTN (+10, "Weapon Master ")
130 Brats
.... 3D Ultra? Minigolf (+130, 7 achievements)
95 Gradius57300
.... Burnout Revenge (+55, 3 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+40, 2 achievements)
80 AdCook
.... Guitar Hero II (+80, 4 achievements)
70 no substance85
.... Rainbow Six? Vegas (+70, 2 achievements)
70 Pods and Wicky
.... Castlevania: SOTN (+40, 3 achievements)
.... Guitar Hero II (+30, "Fanatical Completionist Award")
70 Crimson Day
.... Guitar Hero II (+70, 3 achievements)
55 ezee ryder
.... UEFA CL 2006-2007 (+55, 6 achievements)
30 PeteJ
.... Guitar Hero II (+30, "Fanatical Completionist Award")
25 Unwell Cat
.... GRAW 2 (+25, 3 achievements)
20 Mark Owen
.... Gyruss (+20, 2 achievements)
20 SharkyOB
.... Test Drive Unlimited (+10, "TRADE")
.... Oblivion (+10, "Master Thief, Thieves Guild")
10 venom743
.... Gears of War (+10, "It's a Massacre")
0 KungFu Ramone
0 Legendary 10
0 MythJM
0 Mik3F
0 mathm0s
0 Rossco UK
0 Bleeders
0 JohnBeaulieu



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Achievements This Week
* = calculated from xbox.com, may not be exact
==============================================

## Name
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77 glosoli
44 Holliss360
40 Leonard Lau
35 TheMarine1979
33 Stakers
28 seigfreid007
27 Kubrick XL
26 xXIShadowIXx
25 Mr Field
22 Rubiq
21 synthesthesia1
18 Destrukt2006
18 ItsThere
16 KILLBOT v2
15 Family Fry
15 themanwithapc
13 neverevertrevor
13 Paulos G
11 ExtremePabs
9 Nightswimming
8 peeveen
8 EvilBoris DX
7 booyabase
7 Yoshimax
7 Brats
6 ChunkyKong
6 chopemon
6 ezee ryder
5 Gradius57300
4 Pods and Wicky
4 AdCook
3 Unwell Cat
3 Crimson Day
2 no substance85
2 Mark Owen
2 SharkyOB
1 PeteJ
1 venom743
0 Legendary 10
0 KungFu Ramone
0 MythJM
0 Rossco UK
0 mathm0s
0 Mik3F
0 Bleeders
0 JohnBeaulieu



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Weighted Gamerscores
Achievement values are degraded depending on
how many other players have that achievement.
Only counts games for which two or more
players have at least 5% of points.
=============================================

Score Name
-----------------------
16030 seigfreid007
11843 Leonard Lau
9848 EvilBoris DX
8328 glosoli
7917 mathm0s
7541 Destrukt2006
7078 no substance85
7048 peeveen
7040 TheMarine1979
7022 Stakers
6616 ezee ryder
6572 Kubrick XL
6545 Family Fry
6450 chopemon
6378 MythJM
6328 ExtremePabs
6240 KILLBOT v2
6092 Gradius57300
5653 Brats
5632 booyabase
5587 ItsThere
4972 Nightswimming
4876 Paulos G
4704 synthesthesia1
4489 Mik3F
4377 AdCook
4048 Holliss360
4016 Crimson Day
3958 Mark Owen
3853 Yoshimax
3404 PeteJ
3386 themanwithapc
3311 neverevertrevor
3270 KungFu Ramone
3148 Rubiq
2805 ChunkyKong
2785 xXIShadowIXx
2747 Bleeders
2025 Mr Field
1962 venom743
1875 Rossco UK
1848 Pods and Wicky
1812 SharkyOB
1244 JohnBeaulieu
736 Legendary 10
128 Unwell Cat

[VR46]

Sorry Yoshi

Joust ................ Holliss360 (30)

Achievement points from 10 games for me this week, must be a high.

720 Holliss360

.... 3D Ultra™ Minigolf (+180, 11 achievements)
.... UNO (+115, 8 achievements)
.... Viva Piñata (+80, 4 achievements)
.... Bankshot Billiards 2 (+80, 4 achievements)
.... Meet the Robinsons (+80, 5 achievements)
.... PGR 3 (+75, 3 achievements)
.... Small Arms (+45, 2 achievements)
.... Gyruss (+30, 3 achievements)
.... Joust (+30, 3 achievements)
.... Boom Boom Rocket (+5, "Speeding Ticket")

Shame most were low scoring ones though.

[Extra Terrestrial]

Well, it is a good time as any to say this.

I will be stuck with a score of 29775 (78.1%) for life as I sent my Xbox 360 back to the repairs centre along with my - *groans* - hard drive.

In this unfortunate scenario, I cannot for the life of me remember any of the hotmail/MSN details my Brother 'made up' for my gamer-tag when I joined Xbox Live so you might want to take my name off the leader-board for good otherwise you will be stuck seeing my profile/score till the end of time.

It was fun whilst it lasted and I hope that one day I will get back in the mood to gain achievements all over again, if not quite with the same enthusiasm as I used to have.



You are doing a good job as ever with the stats too, peeveen.

[Swallow]

You been on the blower to Customer Services, ET? If you explained the circumstances, I'm sure they'd try to help.

for you, anyways.

[ChrisF]

I found Customer Services remarkably good when I had to recover my gamertag...

[Stakers]

Another one on the top who just got TMNT...

Well... here's my answer to that:

"Dear Andrew,

We have just despatched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles to you! You should receive this in the next 1-2 days."

(it's a rental and the only one out of my list of 8 they've been able to send... pff)

ANOTHER one on top with TMNT! 77 achievements in a week as well, spooky.