Oh and some potentially interesting information on the effects of the new Assassin job trait for THF.
In my Saturday PT the setup was NIN/WAR, MNK/WAR, THF/NIN, RDM/BLM, BLM/WHM and WHM/BLM. Pretty conventional setup, could have probably swapped out the RDM for another DD (for NIN tank parties, Refresh is not as important), but overall it was a well-balanced parties.
The start of the battle was the usual routine. THF pulls mob, MNK provides initial Provoke whilst I get into position and THF performs SATA for initial burst of hate, Provoke then Blind, Paralyze, Slow, Poison and Provoke from myself.
So far, everything normal. However, usually in these instances the THF will perform SATA again when it is available, usually behind the first Provoke user. If I?m on my game the hate will be well cemented onto me anyway, or if hate does shift 1 Provoke from me is usually enough to gte it back.
This THF was different.
When his timer for Sneak Attack (SA) and Trick Attack(TA) was ready he would first perform Trick Attack behind me even when the mob was facing me (remember, TA does not require the THF to be positioned behind the mob to perform critical damage, simply that another player character be between the THF and mob when the strike lands). Previous to the update however the damage bonus on TA was very low (2x at best) which is what led to it almost always being combined with Sneak Attack. However whenever the THF performed TA the damage was on a par with a standalone SA, which I presume is the result of the Assassin job trait coming into effect, so he would use it to plant further hate onto me whilst the mob was still locked onto me, then he would move behind the mob and perform a SA.
Unfortunately the THF was Japanese so I was not able to ask if this change in tactic was how he has always played, or whether it was the result of changes in the THF job.
Certainly, if it is the effect of Assassin it should make my tanking life much easier as no longer will they be performing a SATA+weapon skill(WS) behind a non-tank mid fight but can instead simply do TA+WS for the same (or similar) damage.
In my Saturday PT the setup was NIN/WAR, MNK/WAR, THF/NIN, RDM/BLM, BLM/WHM and WHM/BLM. Pretty conventional setup, could have probably swapped out the RDM for another DD (for NIN tank parties, Refresh is not as important), but overall it was a well-balanced parties.
The start of the battle was the usual routine. THF pulls mob, MNK provides initial Provoke whilst I get into position and THF performs SATA for initial burst of hate, Provoke then Blind, Paralyze, Slow, Poison and Provoke from myself.
So far, everything normal. However, usually in these instances the THF will perform SATA again when it is available, usually behind the first Provoke user. If I?m on my game the hate will be well cemented onto me anyway, or if hate does shift 1 Provoke from me is usually enough to gte it back.
This THF was different.
When his timer for Sneak Attack (SA) and Trick Attack(TA) was ready he would first perform Trick Attack behind me even when the mob was facing me (remember, TA does not require the THF to be positioned behind the mob to perform critical damage, simply that another player character be between the THF and mob when the strike lands). Previous to the update however the damage bonus on TA was very low (2x at best) which is what led to it almost always being combined with Sneak Attack. However whenever the THF performed TA the damage was on a par with a standalone SA, which I presume is the result of the Assassin job trait coming into effect, so he would use it to plant further hate onto me whilst the mob was still locked onto me, then he would move behind the mob and perform a SA.
Unfortunately the THF was Japanese so I was not able to ask if this change in tactic was how he has always played, or whether it was the result of changes in the THF job.
Certainly, if it is the effect of Assassin it should make my tanking life much easier as no longer will they be performing a SATA+weapon skill(WS) behind a non-tank mid fight but can instead simply do TA+WS for the same (or similar) damage.
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