Final Fantasy XI Then...

[C']

Spoiler for CoP up to Chapter 3:

->Open Spoiler<-

How funny is Prishe? Watching her dash around Bastok threatening anyone and everyone was brilliant. Madcap barely goes towards describing her. I also literally laughed out loud when I went to the Tenshodo afterwards and saw her peeping round the corner only to be dragged off by the little Tarutaru.

This is what I think FFXI does better than other MMORPGs. The characters have bags of, well, character. Certainly the (admittedly small) time I spent with WoW, I never once laughed at the antics of NPCs.

That being said, I wasn?t fully able to take in what was happening with the cutscenes especially the one prior to the battle (as my concern was having 2 members who had cleared the battle already so would have been waiting for us in the BC). Led to a bit of confusion as to exactly who was doing what. Obviously I can rewatch the cutscenes but that involves getting back to Monarch Linn for the Goblin Footprint which is not ideal.

[Darwock]

That was the cutscene that really exasperated me with regards to being nonsensical - the ZM stuff we followed it up with actually cleared things up a little... only a little mind you (obviously as you've already done the ZM stuff)

[Tsingtao]

We'll be going to Monarch Linn again, theres an ENM up there and its easier to reach I understand one you get Riverne B#01 access

Oh and theres a map to, must have map!

[C']

That was the cutscene that really exasperated me with regards to being nonsensical - the ZM stuff we followed it up with actually cleared things up a little... only a little mind you (obviously as you've already done the ZM stuff)

Funny you should mention that as me and Apa were chatting trying to work things out (about what we witnessed) and he said something which clearly related to RoZ but I didn?t understand and it sounds like it is something I have yet to see (please remember I am not as far into Zilart missions yet, I still need to complete Return to Delkfutt?s Tower).

ENM was actually something I was going to mention. I realised last night that 4 ENMs were open to us at Monarch Linn (2 lvl40 cap and 2lvl50 cap, each cap has a 3-man and 6-man battle I think). I?d certainly like to give them a try sometime.

[Tsingtao]

My understanding on the Monarch Linn ENMs are they are best left until you have Riverne B#01 access, particuallry the level 50s otherwise you have to take 2 sets of gear to get up there. The other reason is from what people say you only need one wyvern scale to get to Monarch Linn from B#01 as opposed to the 2 from A#01.

I think we're all getting pretty close to B#01 access so I'd say its worth wating, I'm quite fancying trying the ENM in Pso'Xja as well. Think its home to the woodsman ring!

[C']

I don?t think it?s that bad attempting to get Giant Scales. Drop rate seems kind enough. We only had until 10pm last night to clear the entire mission and I was concerned that we needed 2 scales and we hadn?t even got going until about 8:45pm yet we farmed the scales, got to Monarch Linn and completed the battle all in plenty of time. The whole process can be done in about 30-45 mins I reckon which is comparable to climbing up Promyvion anyway.

If people want to wait until #B01 fine but I?m up for it much sooner than that.

[Tobal]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10;mid=1139986194185051950;num=127;page=1

its official, 'the biggest idiot ever'

[Darwock]

Damn man, that's loaded with spoilers. Is that thread started by someone we should know?

[Lupine]

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.htm...num=127;page=1

its official, 'the biggest idiot ever'

How is he the biggest idiot ever? CoP IS the biggest piece of **** in the world. Gay missions, gay content, gay rewards, gay endgame.

[Tobal]

spoilers? it only mention's fights which im sure everyone has at least some knowledge of happening, but not story line bits.

summary
him 'CoP storyline suxs cos i don't understand it'
them 'how can you not understand, everything is explained'
him 'i skipped all the cs'
them 'you have no opinion that the storyline sucks then'
him 'its suxs cos it boring amd has load of random fights for no reason'
them 'but you haven't read it or paid attention'

and so on, and so on

[Tobal]

How is he the biggest idiot ever? CoP IS the biggest piece of **** in the world. Gay missions, gay content, gay rewards, gay endgame.

thanks mr.gil seller your opinion is always welcomed, gay as you think it is, however most of us here have enjoyed the fights, and the reward is story and of course for ace rings at completion.

p.s. also READ the entire thread in there, or use my helpful summery. and you'll why understand why i called him an idiot.

[Darwock]

We have our very own contender for 'biggest idiot ever' right here, however I've just added him to my ignore list so won't ever know if he takes the prize. What a shame!

[C']

How is he the biggest idiot ever? CoP IS the biggest piece of **** in the world. Gay missions, gay content, gay rewards, gay endgame.

I'll take each of your points:

Missions - how can anyone think these missions are 'gay'. Challenging yes and certainly require a lot of effort on behalf of the players but I relish that. I've only gotten up to chapter 3 so far but our group went 1/1 on all Promyvions, only had 1 death against Minotaur (due to my own stupidity beforehand) and 1/1 against mammets. That doesn't mean to say I thought they were easy (Promyvion-Mea was incredibly close, I hit 20HP at one point). Some people don't like the level caps but again I love these as it prevents you being able to overpower the boss. I pray ToAU imposes level caps on its mission series too. Not only does it give content for the lower level players (many of ournewer LS members were able to get involved with the veterans for CoP which was not possible with RoZ), but it provides challenge. It also allows me to use many of the new equipment pieces that are added. The superb Nokizaru Gi and Hakama were added when my NIN was beyond the level that I could wear them but thanks to the forthcoming lvl50 cap battles, I get to wear them. Fantastic! ^^

Content ? I?m a bit confused by what you could mean by this but I know as a LS we try and make the most of the zones. We make concerted efforts to do regular Promyvion ENMs, hunt for Memospheres and the like and in the last couple of weeks we have already had 3 Phomiuna Aqueduct runs with another planned. Not just for the mission and subligars but also hunting maps, quest items and NMs. Some of us even hunted all of our Gobbiebag 6 items (including a series of incredibly fun battles against Corse). Never had a problem with finding content to occupy ourselves with.

Rewards ? I actually find the reward structure of CoP far better than RoZ. To my understanding all Zilart rewards you with is Sky and an earring. The decision to cascade access to the new zones as rewards for completing missions was the correct one as it gives almost constant rewards as you progress through the storyline. I remember being incredibly excited at having Tavnazia to look around as I fell from the sky after clearing Promyvion. Then there is obviously the final reward ring. How can anyone not feel these are worthy rewards?

Endgame ? I guess I cannot really comment on as I haven?t yet hit that part of the game. Certainly from what I read, a major complaint is the difficulty of sea HNMs when compared to sky which if the case, is a poor reflection of end game players on the whole. Perhaps the lootpools could have been improved but I see no reason why this cannot be updated accordingly.

[Daragon]

What is this ring that everyone's talking about? I know its rewarded when you beat the expansion but I have no idea what it does - obviously its something big as it people are talking about it being some massive thing, is it the one that teleports you to Tavnazia or is that obtained from somewhere else?

As for the CoP argument, it certainly seems like some people are lashing out at it because its too complex! Pah, obviously those same nay sayers have yet to experience RoZ as I didn't really understand the background behind the Zilart race to begin with, although the storyline certainly becomes alot more interesting after defeating Kamlan'aut.

[C']

When you complete the CoP storyline you are able to choose ONE of the following rings (the choice is sadly permanent, you can never obtain the other 2)

Rajas Ring - Lvl30 STR+2~5 DEX+2~5 Store TP+5 Subtle Blow+5

Sattva Ring - Lvl30 HP+15~30 VIT+2~5 AGI+2~5 Emnity+3

Tamas Ring - Lvl30 MP+15~30 INT+2~5 MND+2~5 Emnity-3

The ~ indicate that the bonus you get from the ring can vary between the including ranges (which I think is determined by level).