Final Fantasy XI Then...

[C']

It doesn't have to be immediate, let's just get something up on the calendar because it's not happening at all at the moment. How is next week?

I?ll be honest, I?m not sure if I can commit the kind of time this BCNM requires at the moment.

Whilst the fight is incredibly straightforward, it takes place in the ZM4 arena which means there is a lot of downtime between each run. I know last time we only did 2 (maybe 3) runs but it took close to 2 hours. I was the only person in the group who had an unlit lantern which meant I had to light all 4 torches myself.

Also when you win you exit the BCNM, you are sent into the Temple of Uggalepih which means you have to go through the paintbrush door again and repeat the torch lighting. We were lucky previously because Theanu brought Truehero too and left him behind gate so he could simply open it from the other side when we had to go back through. We may not have that luxury on this run.

[Tobal]

you can just just have all the the orb user exit the bcnm before you open the chest. So you always have people to open the gate.

[Darwock]

edit - what Tobal said.

Although I have no idea how to get through the paintbrush door, as none of the groups I've ever gone through it with have seemed to have much clue either. Always lots of confusion.

[Darwock]

Are there any reasons why we can't do the Antican version instead? It appears to have the same drops and would obviously be easier to reach.

[C']

I think the reason we moved on from Anticans to Sahagins was because we heard the Enfeebling Torque (which is the priciest of all the skill+7 torques) never dropped from Chamber of Oracles.

Out of the 2 I?d say Sahagins is the easier battle. None were as bad as the Darkstalkers one. That was ****ing crazy fight. Went 1/5 I think.

[Tobal]

The anticon bc can be bad mainly because of the jobs the ants are(BLM,PLD,RNG,THF), although that was back when we?re mostly BCNM60 noobs and lost a fair few times, but still its not a fight I like. The fight is entirely won or lost in the first 20 secs, you have to hope sleepga sticks(ants+sleep don?t mix well) just long enough for the Blm to die depending on it the blm does open up first sleep of sleepga or ga3 >< and then the RNG can one shot a tank with ESS. The less said about the fomor one the better.

[Darwock]

Yeah I don't like ants either, they're very resistant to dark magic.. just trying to make some suggestions so we can move forward. I wonder if Grimm might be interested? That would leave us needing a white mage though... i.e. Akashi or Kuponut

[Tobal]

Hyohh the Conchblower x 1 - Bard Sahagin
Pevv the Riverleaper x 1 - Dragoon Sahagin
Qull the Fallstopper x 1 - Monk Sahagin
Rauu the Whaleswooner x 1 - White Mage Sahagin
Sahagin's Wyvern x 1 ? Wyvern

Order would be WHM or BRD, DRG, Wyvern, then MNK (bind/sleep when it 2hrs)

[C']

ARGH!

Sorry Tobal and Rabs. NTL were being really crap last night.

I'd been having intermittent R:0s throughout the evening and even got chucked off twice but that third one our network connection had died completely. I gave it 10 minutes but resigned myself to the fact that NTL had decided I'd played enough.

[Tobal]

No problem, seemed you were having connection problem which caused your death during exp, we didn?t stay to much longer as rabs had to go 40 mins after that anyway. Still got myself a merit which i spent on TP store.

CoP marathon tonight

[talizker]

CoP marathon tonight

Hell yeah! Really looking forward to this. I logged out at Attohwa Chasm last night so will be good to go by 8.30pm ^_^

[Darwock]

Excellent besieged yesterday evening - from the early days it's been apparent that black mages have a tough time earning points compared to melee & healers, as spells are so frequently resisted either completely or right down to double figures. When I started doing them around level 65 I would typically get 200-300 points for my efforts.. although I could sub rdm and run around healing to get to the 700 I've made it my aim to try and reach the maximum just through nuking. The last one I did at level 69 was my best yet, got around 500 points. Yesterday though, I was helped by the fact the first 15 minutes of the attack fell on Ice day - that gave me a whopping +53 elemental magic (really wish I had the torque for +60). Don't know if it had any bearing but I also didn't die once which is astonishing given my tendency to attack unclaimed targets. So at the end.... 693 points! AAAGH so close! Still 7 to go before I'll be satisfied!

[Darwock]

Hell yeah! Really looking forward to this. I logged out at Attohwa Chasm last night so will be good to go by 8.30pm ^_^

Do you know how to get to Boneyard Gully? I've got no idea whatsoever, better point that out now in case we're all expected to make our own way there.

Question about the snoll fight - I'm aware it's a classic example of an FF bomb in that it gets bigger and then blows up.. question is does it attack normally during this or is it purely a time limit thing?

Cos if it doesn't attack it would make sense for me to go in with yellow HP so I can max out my damage. Also not sure about using ancient magic - what's the limit, 30 seconds? They take around 20 seconds to cast. If the clock starts ticking the moment we enter I probably won't be able to get one out, but if it starts when we attack then I should really get one out at the beginning to save time.

[Tsingtao]

No idea how the snoll timer works, suggest we find some chaps who have done it and ask them. Alternative would be to suck up a death on reraise to determine it ourselves...

...other point is we have enough cluster cores for 3 salts so that will give us around 45 seconds extra I think. If we AM, astral flow, familiar, chainspell and SAM 2 hour it we should have it screwed pretty fast.

Getting to boneyard gully isn't bad come up with the rest of us

Really looking forward to this, if we beat everything first up it will be a legendary night. Was going to suggest we did some assaults in any dead time we have while waiting for 2 hours to reset.

Then again we might just want a break!

[Darwock]

Breaks are for people who watch soaps.

I reckon after some thought the snoll can only start counting from first attack - some of these battlefields take a long time to even reach the actual mob, so it would be very unfair - not to mention the fact we'll all be entering at slightly different times. So if correct we should try to co-ordinate all our biggest attacks to land at the same time for the kick-off.

edit - advantage of doing an assault is I can use it to determine what my HP is for 60 cap, so I know what to leave it at for the latent effect. Never paid attention before.