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    #76
    No, the public wasnt intrested in 2d games, thats why it happend and the decline of arcades.

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      #77
      Personally I always thought it was more down to the power gap between Arcade cabinets and home consoles diminishing to near non existance coupled with (in the UK at least) games no longer being 10-30p a pop but ?1-?2.

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        #78
        Perhaps retro gamer could do a feature on the decline of the arcades in the UK (think there still quite big in japan)

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          #79
          Personally I always thought it was more down to the power gap between Arcade cabinets and home consoles diminishing to near non existance coupled with (in the UK at least) games no longer being 10-30p a pop but ?1-?2
          True, dat.

          What's the point in putting your hard-earned cash into an arcade machine for a few minutes play when you can go the whole hog and buy the home version, which is indentical, and play it til the cows come home?

          (Or, if you don't live in the country, til the wife comes home?)

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            #80
            Originally posted by Duddyroar
            True, dat.

            What's the point in putting your hard-earned cash into an arcade machine for a few minutes play when you can go the whole hog and buy the home version, which is indentical, and play it til the cows come home?

            (Or, if you don't live in the country, til the wife comes home?)
            Really tho, how many commercial arcade titles come to the home consoles, and do you have a 50" monitor and seat indoors?

            What you said is true, but its not always the case, the experience isnt the same & just dont play games you can buy.........Outrun 2SP , Derby Owners Club etc..

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              #81
              Really tho, how many commercial arcade titles come to the home consoles, and do you have a 50" monitor and seat indoors?
              With the progression of home cinema (in terms of both visuals and audio) over the past few years, this isn't even an issue any more. Most serious gamers have a setup at home that betters what is on offer at arcades.

              But I take your point, there is something special about playing a proper arcade cabinet, like Outrun 2 or even the crusty old Daytona USA.

              However, we risk derailing this topic...

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                #82
                Originally posted by gingerj
                *cough*goemon feature*cough*
                Best buy the Retro Survival CD, there's a huge one on it there

                (trust me, took long enough for me to lay the damn thing out!)

                As for the complains about 8bit computers, whilst I accept RG concentrated a bit too much on them, it doesn't mean they don't have a place in the new RG. And you have to remember 20,000 people were happy to buy the old mag each month. Must mean they WANTED to read about most of the stuff in there.

                People banging on about new RG should be mostly console based are just as bad imo as saying there was too much computer/Western focus before

                And that a LOT of people especially here in the UK didn't have anything to do console wise until the Megadrive came out. And most people don't have an interest in anything Japanese or anything obscure. Many people bought RG to read about stuff they had heard of. Just remember that... we here on this board are THE MINORITY

                (the informed minority, but the minority nonetheless)
                Lie with passion and be forever damned...

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by Duddyroar
                  With the progression of home cinema (in terms of both visuals and audio) over the past few years, this isn't even an issue any more. Most serious gamers have a setup at home that betters what is on offer at arcades.
                  Try telling that to my 21" Hitachi.........it has nicam stereo!

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                    #84
                    And that a LOT of people especially here in the UK didn't have anything to do console wise until the Megadrive came out. And most people don't have an interest in anything Japanese or anything obscure. Many people bought RG to read about stuff they had heard of. Just remember that... we here on this board are THE MINORITY
                    Very true. Just look at the retro sites on the net devoted to classic 8-bit home computers...there's a lot of people out there who want to read about the Spectrum and C64. And as Mayhem says, anyone over the age of 25 isn't likely to have imported until the Megadrive appeared.

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                      #85
                      Try telling that to my 21" Hitachi.........it has nicam stereo!
                      Ha! My 14" telly (purchased from Morrisons) beats your Hitachi in the total crapness stakes! I was lucky it had a SCART socket!

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by Duddyroar
                        Very true. Just look at the retro sites on the net devoted to classic 8-bit home computers...there's a lot of people out there who want to read about the Spectrum and C64. And as Mayhem says, anyone over the age of 25 isn't likely to have imported until the Megadrive appeared.
                        yes but the 8 bit computers are now a boring unplayable mess, only those who remember that period who refuse to remove their rose tinted glasses have any love for that era in gaming. Nostalgia for those who refuse to let go, i refuse to look back at that era in gaming with anything other disgust. The 8 bit computer freaks had their time with the old retrogamer let it and tons of awful speccy cover art die with it. The mag has been given a second chance, the late eighties onwards is the best era to focus on and with strider at the helm i have faith that this will be a decent mag. What do you want to read about, speccy/c64 ? or neogeo, pc engine, arcade, megadrive, saturn snes etc? there just is no contest.

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                          #87
                          All the best Darren, you know where to come for spectrum stuff

                          Also will MD reappear to slag off Retro Gamer now?

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Baseley09
                            Really tho, how many commercial arcade titles come to the home consoles, and do you have a 50" monitor and seat indoors?

                            What you said is true, but its not always the case, the experience isnt the same & just dont play games you can buy.........Outrun 2SP , Derby Owners Club etc..

                            You forgot that game where you chuck the balls in the slots to make your horsey move forward. That never got a home conversion.

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                              #89
                              A few people seem to be missing the point about covering the 8-bit computers. Whilst it is certainly true that most of the games from that era are now relatively unplayable it's important to note that the developers that made those games are still making exciting, groundbreaking titles today.

                              As an historical resource a magazine like Retro Gamer has to tell the story of where those developers started out and that will, in most cases, involve having a good look at some C64 and Speccy games. You only have to read the book on Rare (free with X360 magazine) to see that 8-bit computer games can be written about in an interesting and informative way without them being "boring".

                              Besides, just because they're featured in a magazine it doesn't mean you have to load up the game and play it. Some retro games are there to be revisited and enjoyed whilst others are there to be nostalgic about but are best left unplayed.

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                                #90
                                Smashing news.

                                Of course, this will only encourage me to reacquire all the retro stuff I've spent the past few months getting rid of...

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