Movies that have influenced you

[rmoxon]

I always thought one flew over the cuckoos nest(which, don't get me wrong, is a terrific film) would have been more inspiring if they had done it like the novel and told the story through the eyes of the native american guy.

In the film you're still reeling from the fact that

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the main guy who you have just been supporting the entire length of the story has been lobotomised, so when the final escape happens I don't believe it's as impactful as it could have been. You were never following the guy who escapes so it's harder to care.

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Spoilers much?

[rmoxon]

Sorry will change it.

[PaTaito]

I think the film is pretty much perfect.

I dont see how an overlayed narrative would help the film, it would only serve to lessen the revelation later in the film.

And the escape itself isnt the truly impactful high of the finale for me, rather the

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merciful smothering of murphy, along with chiefs triumphant lifting of the sink to aid his escape

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Spoilers right here

[rmoxon]

I think the film is pretty much perfect.

I dont see how an overlayed narrative would help the film, it would only serve to lessen the revelation later in the film.

And the escape itself isnt the truly impactful high of the finale for me, rather the

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merciful smothering of murphy, along with chiefs triumphant lifting of the sink to aid his escape

It wouldn't ned an over layered narrative. my point was that in the book you are looking through the eyes of Chief, so it makes the ending more of a personal triumph, and there more inspirational. In the movie you see it through the eyes of a character who isn't physically involved in its most inspiring moment.

This is actually a good thread to discuss the film in above many others becuase it is a story about inspiration, however the book is about how someone was inspired, the film is about someone who ultimatley did the inspiring act.

Its the same story but told from two different angles and it ultimatley has a different effect on the person experiencing it becuase of that.

['Press Start']

Schindlers list is still a film, not a documentary, Liam nesson had nothing to do with the holocaust believe it or not.

It's a great film but I can't relate to it at all to be honest, I feel no connection to it becuase I haven't been through what the people in the film have. It doesn't inspire me becuase it impresses nothing upon my mind that wasn't already there.

I appriciate it as a story but I doubt it's ever inspired anyone to try and save a race of men from extinction. In fact I doubt it has ever inspired anyone to not be racst, in fact I doubt anyone watching it would be racist in the first place.

So does its existence have any bearing on the real world? No, not really. I've never seen a film that has ever changed the world in any way shape or form, except maybe star wars, I'm not sure things like comic con would exist without it (I mean, what would people dress up as if wookies never existed?).

Films do not have to change the world, some can alter perceptions or inspire, as you state in this post:-

I always thought one flew over the cuckoos nest(which, don't get me wrong, is a terrific film) would have been more inspiring if they had done it like the novel and told the story through the eyes of the native american guy.

127 hours is another film inspiring film imo. Never give up! The bit when he saw the flash of his kid when he was at his lowest then it gave him strength to carry on.

[PaTaito]

It wouldn't need an over layered narrative. my point was that in the book you are looking through the eyes of Chief, so it makes the ending more of a personal triumph, and there more inspirational. In the movie you see it through the eyes of a character who isn't physically involved in its most inspiring moment.

This is actually a good thread to discuss the film in above many others becuase it is a story about inspiration, however the book is about how someone was inspired, the film is about someone who ultimatley did the inspiring act.

Its the same story but told from two different angles and it ultimatley has a different effect on the person experiencing it becuase of that.

In the end, the lingering feeling would still always be about murphys

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labotomy

rather than positive thoughts of

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chiefs escape.

It wouldnt matter the perspective, the end is more about the inspirational sink antics than the

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actual act of escaping

....but with nicholson onboard it was always gong to be about him, and from his perspective. It just had to be.

For me when

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chief escapes

it is perfectly bittersweet.

All you would achieve from changing the perspective, would be to take away slightly from nicholsons electric screen time. We'd see things more from a guy who is mostly

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mute

.

In the end though once murphy is

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in vegetable form

, we do see things through the eyes of chief, its just that for the sake of film murphy/nicholson made for a more interesting viewpoint.

[MartyG]

12 Angry Men - You should never make assumptions
Better Off Dead - You should learn to ski on one ski
High Fidelity - Making lists is not sad or worthless
Shaun of the Dead - Learning that LP records are ill effective against Zombies, especially those from the 80s and 90s (the LPs that is, not the Zombies)

[J0e Musashi]

First The Shining, now One Flew Over. I'm getting good at this. LOL. My Pa calls me One Flew Over, mainly due to my mania. That's only why I mentioned it as it has influenced my life. I should have said Jaws because I have the same Harrington as Schieder.

[prinnysquad]

Duel taught me that, should I ever be chased by a maniac in a truck, he won't beat me on the grade.

As long as I have a decent oil level.


Twelve Angry Men, my favourite film, helped me to understand that prejudice can have an impact in all aspects of life.

[PaTaito]

First The Shining, now One Flew Over. I'm getting good at this. LOL.

Yeah sorry i should just let it fly over my head(ocd is a bitch), but i just cant stand it when people needlessly pick at great films in threads where it really isnt necessary, especially having previously championed **** like john carter...

There you go i said it, john carter is ****!

Anyway moving on...^^

[Guts]

It's a great film but I can't relate to it at all to be honest, I feel no connection to it becuase I haven't been through what the people in the film have.

Interesting, are you some kind of android lacking human emotions perhaps? Your life must be quite boring if you cannot feel "a connection" to anything you haven't experienced before.

Your claim, that movies don't influence "the real world" is downright laughable. Some Jews felt that Passion of the Christ increased anti-semitism against them. Ever heard of propaganda films? Yeah they make them even today. When Top Gun came out, U.S. navy had recruitment booths outside the theaters, yeah films certainly don't affect the "real world".

[J0e Musashi]

Yeah sorry i should just let it fly over my head(ocd is a bitch), but i just cant stand it when people needlessly pick at great films in threads where it really isnt necessary, especially having previously championed **** like john carter...

There you go i said it, john carter is ****!

Anyway moving on...^^

Don't apologise meng. I've been here long enough that I can share that I have mental problems with people I don't know in real life.

I've not seen John Carter. Is it as good as Precinct 13? How about The Warriors? Any film where an ice cream man shoots a child point blank in the head deserves talking about IMO.

[MartyG]

When Top Gun came out, U.S. navy had recruitment booths outside the theaters, yeah films certainly don't affect the "real world".

Key:
Red - people who watched Top Gun
Blue - people who joined Navy
Purple - people who joined Navy after watching Top Gun.