Star Wars Episode 7

[Neon Ignition]

To my mind Lucas is a brillit business man and knows his stuff when it comes to technology. He's also had tremendous luck as he's a terrible writer and director. Its no secret how he borrowed heavily to put Star Wars together creatively and whilst thats fair play as he got rich that way, with Indy its mostly Ford and Speilberg to thank for them working despite the premise being Lucas's

[noobish hat]

I would say with 1970's Star Wars and American Graffiti prove he was a decent director

Was. Was.

[Team Andromeda]

As above, nobody's denying that Lucas is a good businessman, they're saying that he's a bad filmmaker. When the world of Star Wars was being created, he did not have full control

He did make the 1st Star War he did come up with the story and cast of characters - That to me showed the man had other talents and I'm sure with Empire and Return he had complete control since he financed them ...

He either doesn't know anything about filmmaking (just look at the crappy static shot/

He knows more than us here I'm willing to bet, but everyone has their time and their day and his time is passed and so to me is Star Wars

[Dogg Thang]

Uwe Boll has managed to raise financing for 22 features. House of the Dead came out in 2003 and the man still gets a paycheck and raises money as both producer and director (and sometimes writer) on film after film, year after year. And you know what? Being honest, I couldn't do that. Have any of us made a movie better than he has? And many of these are his creations to do with as he pleases, who are we to criticise?

Maybe both Lucas and Boll deserve a break. They should totally start a club.


Edit: TA, Lucas definitely had talent. I totally agree with you. The man inspired people to deliver excellent work and he spun some story elements and characters who would become some of the best loved and well known characters ever. He was a visionary. He had the drive to get those movies made, never easy. He founded ILM in the process, and much more. And launched an empire. Those things can't be denied. But he then went on to make a heinous amount of cack and his earlier achievements don't wipe those from existence.

[Team Andromeda]

Was. Was.

Exactly - Everyone has their time, even film makers

[Colin]

35 years on and people still adore and get worked up about Star Wars. Not just some people, but millions of them. It's as relevant and popular as ever.

[Team Andromeda]

Uwe Boll has managed to raise financing for 22 features

LOL looking over the pathetic comparison I would say the difference was Lucas didn't need to raise funds for Empire I doubt we'll be talking about Uwe Boll franchine some 30 years latter too , but there you go

I thought the sequels to the Matrix were a crap , but it was Wachowski brothers world and story to choose what do with

[Team Andromeda]

35 years on and people still adore and get worked up about Star Wars. Not just some people, but millions of them. It's as relevant and popular as ever.

Yep Just look at Only Fools and Horse and Red Dwarf we all still love them and all still talk about them , but the newer versions are never has good. I wouldn't for one sec though, make out that John Sullivan didn't know the 1st think about comedy or scripts


Everything has its time imo

[fishbowlhead]

Id like to what Nolan could do with a trilogy. Grounded, less cg, gritty. Give some unknown tallent to shine maybe in a related story arc but doesn't include the originals actors, Lukes kids maybe with a Hammil cameo once or twice.

Id definitely like to see a more mature darker tone to it all though. As the recent batman trilogy proved it can be done and still make a boot load of money for the studio too.

[Guts]

Things I have learned from Team Andromeda recently:

Nintendo can't make money and are a poor company.

George Lucas can make money and is therefore a brilliant film maker.

[kryss]

I hated Evil Dead III but at the end of the day it was Sam baby and his world to mess around with

Now it is very much on like Donkey Kong.

[noobish hat]

LOL looking over the pathetic comparison I would say the difference was Lucas didn't need to raise funds for Empire I doubt we'll be talking about Uwe Boll franchine some 30 years latter too , but there you go

I thought the sequels to the Matrix were a crap , but it was Wachowski brothers world and story to choose what do with

Wachowski siblings.

[wakka]

He did make the 1st Star War

Go see a Star War

[Neon Ignition]

I'd hate a more grounded Star Wars, it'd likely end up as LOTR in space. It was fine as it was; a slightly cheesey action adventure. The trouble is decades of fan worship would have the OT as being much deeper than it actually is. Plus, thanks to that fanbase, a reboot will likely never happen and the new film will likely forceably be OT in tone so as not to risk anymore fan rage. Not that he's available but Whedon would probably be a spot on choice to make one. Serenity was probably the next closest thing.

[Dogg Thang]

Hang on, are you saying LotR is grounded?