Official F1/Motorsport thread

[Roddie]

Hmm, that's strange, Alonso doesn't seem to be complaining that this race was manipulated!

[Senna]

Montezemelo criticises 'hypocrisy':

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/8856761.stm

It may well have happened in the past Luca but that does NOT mean fans have to always put up with it. Times change. Atittudes change. I give you that there would have been a small amount of fans wishing for the Ferraris to take each other out, but the vast vast majority wanted to see hard but fair racing. To see how Massa would have used all his skill and knowledge of car placement to keep Alonso behind, but equally to see Eyebrowes trick Massa into his racing line, to feint here and there and get him bothered and stressed in the car. The slight locking of the brakes, racing on the limit, and with Vettel likely to join in the fight as well. Racing. Not thievery.

[Shez]

I think Alonso could have taken him if he had tried a bit harder, he's a good f1 driver, but his overtaking is starting to look a little suspect. He can't just expect people to jump out of the way all the time.

He had one stab and gave up, I think he's better than that, and he's proved it by planting moves on Massa before.

I kinda see Montezemolo's point though, we can see a list of incidents on that BBC link - It doesn't mean it is ok, just because it wasn't so blatant as we saw on Sunday.

They may as well remove the ruling and be done with it - If any driver signs a contract to be a second driver then that's their issue, and maybe that should be more transparent rather than have this ruling that can never truly work.

[Charlie]

Check out the questions aimed at the Ferrari drivers by the press following the race. It's a good read: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/07/2...ss-conference/

[jim g]

I think Alonso is moaning faced c**t, he always wants it his way, never happy. He is a good driver, but I can't be doing with all his antics. This is not an anti ferrari post, I have NEVER liked him.

Drivers should have to overtake, and blue flags should be abolished also. Why should a driver slow down to let someone past, it is a RACE after all..........grrr

[TheForce]

First of all before I get back to the race, anyone who hasn't seen tonight's Top Gear episode should try and catch it any way you can - there was a brilliant Ayrton Senna feature for 10 minutes to mark what would have been his 50th birthday, and had Lewis Hamilton driving his 1988 McLaren around Silverstone - wow!

Damn, I missed it last Sunday ! I searched on Youtube and only found part2 of this feature on Senna (part 1 was blocked already), it showed Hamilton driving Senna?s old car... gave me goosebumps !
Mike mate I bet you look different to Hamilton now after what you?ve seen in the last few weeks about him ?!

will keep a close eye on this when the new series start overhere in NL and I will make sure to put it on DVD !

great stuff and kudo?s to TopGear to honer the greatest driver ever

[Number45]

Should still be on iPlayer dude.

[TheForce]

unfortunally you can't view the iPlayer when you're living outside the UK (I'm living in the Netherlands the latest season of TopGear you're viewing now will start here in about 3 to 4 months...)

edit: just found a link for the whole movie : http://vimeo.com/13656079

excellent stuff !

[Senna]

Hi Roy,

To be fair Hamilton has always said he was a massive fan of Senna, even idolised the man, and you always got the impression that this was no media statement. But yeah what I have seen in the last few weeks has created goose bumps, some really 'from the heart' videos. I also think that (apart from a couple of moments during the season when Hamilton criticised his team - 'whose idea was this?' springs to mind) he has been more mature in his overall approach in and out of the car. I'm not saying that I'll ever warm to him completely (I still feel he is a little too media-manufactured) but for sure I'm rooting for him more times this season than in ones past.

Bring on the Hungaroring, and a good race (and preferably a Massa victory for the symbolism a year on from his accident, or at least a non-Alonso victory).

[Wools]

A great little sniplet of Sir Stirling Moss talking about the era in which he raced compared to modern day.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8849492.stm

[TheForce]

I still feel he is a little too media-manufactured

yeah, I can understand this.
But I think many drivers have this nowadays, but that's mainly because of the big money that is going around in the sport, drivers are trained to speak to the media too much to not embarras the big sponsers etc... , seems they can't say what they really want to anymore, look at Webber and Massa when they commented about all that was happening, they were clearly holding back...
I think the last driver that said what he was thinking was the JuanPablo Montoya (great guy!) and he left F1 because of exactly this, that is was all too clinical

[Darwock]

I thought he left because he was kicked out of the team for eating too many pies.

[Welrain]

Drivers should have to overtake, and blue flags should be abolished also. Why should a driver slow down to let someone past, it is a RACE after all..........grrr

A race where back markers block the race leaders would hardly be fun would it.

[jim g]

A race where back markers block the race leaders would hardly be fun would it.

They would have to show driving skill to get past them and I am sure that is the way it used to work

[Bort]

Hungarian Grand Prix

Hungaroring, 30 July - 1 August 2010
Fri 30 Jul: Practice 1 0900-1030; Practice 2 1300-1430
Sat 31 Jul: Practice 3 1000-1100; Qualifying 1300
Sun 1 Aug: Race 1300



Chandhok has been replaced again by Yamamoto.


Four week break after this GP.