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    Never thought I'd be posting in here! Slightly weird situation for me. I don't really need advice because I know what must be done, although actually doing it is another thing entirely.

    I've been 'dating' a girl for quite a while now. We first started talking on Mixi (essentially like a Japanese Facebook) about a year ago, kept talking because it was fun and we had a lot in common. When I returned to Japan in September, we started talking on the phone whenever we have free time, and eventually met up. We've met up quite a few times now and it's always gone really well. We text each other all day, and some of our texts are like essays in length. We definitely get on really well.

    I suppose the problem I'm having is explicitly trying to move it to the 'next level'. I still don't really like to refer to her as a 'girlfriend' or even our meetups as 'dates' because they've never explicitly been these, even if the implication is there. I guess I'm careful about assuming too much. But it definitely feels like she's as serious about things as me, and now have to try and get myself to grow some balls and ask about the relationship between us.

    Things are complicated by the fact that she can't really speak English. Not really a problem in itself, my Japanese is good enough so that conversation isn't a problem (bar the occasional embarrassing misunderstanding), and she has recently started to learn English in her own time. It does make it a bit harder to pose the question though - I don't really know how to be indirect about it, so I might have to explicitly ask. She also lives in a different town - I live in Kyoto, she lives in Suzuka, and she works a lot of hours, so we only really get to see each other every two weeks or so when she comes to Kyoto (she seems to prefer that over me coming to Suzuka!). So every time I don't bring the subject up, it's another two weeks or so of worrying (I'm certainly not going to do it over the phone).

    I know we've only known each other for a relatively short period of time, so I'm trying not to get too carried away. But I think we're also a bit beyond the stage of our lives where we're just looking for a bit of fun. At 27, I'm hardly old, but also a bit further on in my thinking than other students. She's 25, has been working full time for a number of years and really doesn't like her current job. I think we're both kinda looking for something to work towards.

    We met the other day and I planned to talk about it in a cafe. But the cafe was really busy and I think I used that as an excuse to chicken out of it. We spoke to a long time on the bus as we were going from place to place, but also didn't want to ask about it in somewhere like a bus. Maybe I'm over-thinking things.

    Next time, I just have to make sure I don't bottle it

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      Sounds exciting and we're all behind you!



      No, really. Turn around...

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        Shakey_Jake33 - yeah you've got to just ask directly. If it helps, I was in a similar situation where I went out a few times with a girl from work but wasn't sure if they were proper "dates". Eventually I just asked directly and now we're married so reward definitely outweighed the risk

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          Brilliant positive post davesol. I'm sure it'll go perfectly shakey!

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            My advice is this:

            Just say 'suki'. Look her in the eyes when you say it. Worked for me

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              You should probably go with the girls actual name though and not suki, you don't want to lok like an idiot after all

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                I think we had the "cheesy Japanese lines" a few pages back.

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                  And I think I'll take relationship advice from you when someone makes a racing game that betters Ridge Racer 7

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                    Originally posted by billy_dimashq View Post
                    My advice is this:

                    Just say 'suki'. Look her in the eyes when you say it. Worked for me
                    Funnily enough, I actually was planning to say 「名前」のことが好きです simply because that's the only way I know how to say it! I was worried that would be a bit too direct though. It almost certainly sounds extremely cheesy too, though not being Japanese I'll probably be able to get away with it.

                    Anyway, cheers all! Hopefully the next time I post about it in here, it will be because the response was the affirmative.
                    Last edited by sj33; 23-01-2013, 01:38.

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                      Ask her if she likes Shenmue.

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                        That would work on me at least.

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                          Seriously it was a nice read. Takes me back to when I was dating.

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                            Originally posted by Shakey_Jake33 View Post
                            Funnily enough, I actually was planning to say 「名前」のことが好きです
                            You've been studying Japanese waaay too long to say something textbook like that

                            ski's a weird one for me because I mentally translate it into 'like' rather than 'love' but it's different for them. Mind you, my situation's also different so I was able to get away with being melodramatic because of the five-year build-up we'd endured. I'd still recommend a ski over that sentence any day, plus you can over- or -under-emphasise it to suit the situation.

                            Agree about cheesiness, though. My gf uses daisukidayo at times and, while I don't consider it cheesy, it feels weird for me to say it so I just don't, instead I just say bokumo, problem solved. She's grown up hearing that phrase so I never bring it up. But, based on that, perhaps it would be ok? Still, for me ski's safer and you're not Japanese after all, so whatever you're most comfortable with. I used ski on her before I love you, though. Somehow it felt better that way around, probably for the same reason you mentioned, not being Japanese makes it easier in a way.

                            Or how about "Shenmue yori [namae] ga ski degozaimasu'.

                            Does she find keigo sexy?

                            Also good luck!

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                              Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs :P

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                                Sheeit, been going so well but hit a snag over the last few days. Awesome lass I've known for a year asks for MY number in December, texts me every day before changing her contract so she gets INFINITE MINUTES so she can talk to me anytime. She's deffo got heavy feelings for me cos we've spoken lots, and very deeply, but she has these off moments where she dumps me in the friend zone, and freezes me out. It's probably because her last relationship ended about 6 months back, her fella dumped her for a job and told her not to bother going with him(!), I guess she's still sore n' vulnerable over that. Christ, she's marriage material, we get on awesome!

                                So, she froze me out since Tuesday (I only get to see her at work if I'm on weekends), stopped answering my texts (all after a solid month of total comms!) and it kinda hurt the ol' heart a tad. Ended up ringing her whilst super-high n' boozy last nite and leaving some embarrassing slurred messages on her answerphone. End of? Nah, my texts to birds are aces...f*ck me, still *supposedly* in the friend zone but now three or four "xxx"s per text and that covert flirty type of swoony lingo she uses in texts, I'm BACK!

                                Still, was not expecting said turbulence, she's practically been all over me like a rash, will have to take note and alter stratagem slightly should similar problems occur.

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