Originally posted by SS004
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The union has 160,000 postal members out of a work force that's a shade under 209,000, so it's around the 75-80% region. The number in each office varies though - in mine the only non-union members are two drivers and the casuals but in an office on the outskirts of my town they don't even have a union rep. -
How accurate is that figure Matty? - I Was reading a report yesterday that stated there are 130,000 members, which is nearer 65%.
Take into account the people in the CWU who voted no to strike action, and suddenly there is a different picture being painted.
I actually feel sorry for the non union members tbh - Why they have to be dictated to by a body they have already chosen not to represent them is like something from the stone age.Comment
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Union members shouldn't be unduly affected by this action. They can continue to go in and work as normal and get paid for it so they aren't losing or suffering any disruption. If the union suceeds in negotiating better pay and conditions they will benefit though, so the way I see it it's a win-win situation for them. The only sting in the tail for them could be the implementation of the changes we are opposing, which would be as detrimental to them as much as to union members.Originally posted by SS004 View Post
As for that figure BTW, I think that's probably the number if you discount support / admin staff etc and only count OPGs - that is, your regular delivery postmen and mail sorting centre staff. The rest of the figure quoted by the Union is probably engineers, VDU operators etc etc.Comment
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Are many folk actually walking through the picket line? - We all know the draconian consequences of doing so.Comment
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Depends really, some offices have basically no union support whatsoever whilst others are very hard line. A few people more will probably cross this time but then four days without pay is a big ask for people with kids and mortgages, and we all understand that. I like to think things have moved on since the days of the miner's strikes though, it's not like people will become pariahs and their kids bullied at school if they break the strike.Comment
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I'm gonna make what some might call a base comment here, although I actually think it makes sense.
The 200 or so Post Offices that are gonna close should easily pay for the shortfall in the workers pay rise so there shouldnt be anymore strikes once thats done
Shoot me down as & when u feel the need to. I'm ready for it!
Last edited by EDDIE M0NS00N; 04-10-2007, 14:33.Comment
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Great, but Post Office is a totally different company to Royal Mail.Comment
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or perhaps the top and higher management could take a 10 to 20% pay cut and use that money for pay risesComment
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One of the Kent POs being closed is near me in Tunbridge Wells. It's in a corner shop and is probably is the only thing keeping it from closing down since a Sainsbury's Express shop opened opposite it about 6 months ago - once the PO part is gone, I give it 3-4 months before the poor chap (with a young family) is forced to close up for good. He's been there for as long as I can remember as I used to walk past it/shop there when I was at school 17 or so years ago. I hope he can survive and carry on, but with all the odds against him, it doesn't look good!Comment
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I don't know what they think they're up to with the Post Offices. The main one in my town has queues coming out of the door at any given time of any day, and they have about eight assistants in there. Next year it's getting shut and all PO stuff moved into the back of the WH Smiths down the road. Don't know quite how WH Smiths will respond to being invaded by pensioners / dole scroungers every time money day comes around.Comment
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At my delivery office there's around 200 staff with around 50-60% in the union.
On the previous strike days only around 10 people worked. I think it'll be more like 20+ over the next 4 days.
I work my day off and Sundays to make up my money.Comment
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I crossed a picket line 3 times to go to work last time.
It's a mark of just how bad this new offer is that I'm not going to work this time. It really is horrendous what they are offering.
No disrespect Mad Gear but I really don't see the point in striking if you then work your day off and Sunday to make the cash back.Last edited by Jebus; 04-10-2007, 16:16.Comment
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He's still supporting the cause though, and making the cash back on non-strike days isn't detrimental to the strikes at all right?
Can't see anything wrong in that myself - you've got to keep a roof over your head after all.Comment
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I work pretty much every Sunday anyway. I don't usually work my day off, just depends how i feel and whether it's an easyish day or not.Comment
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I agree, hence me going in to work on the strikes. You don't HAVE to go out on strike, you can go in to work and not lose pay remember.
I just think that morally it's on dodgy grounds. Part of going on strike is taking the hit when it comes to losing the money...it's making a point...it's not supposed to be a holiday, or time off. You lose the money and make a stand. I'm not judging, I'm just pointing out the morality of it
What's the point of going on strike if straight afterwards you work your days off and go down the mail centre on a sunday (or something) to help out and clear the mail that is in the backlog BECAUSE of the strikes...
NOT having a go at you Mad Gear by the way, plenty of people at our office are doing it, and I just don't see the point.
30 people + on strike at our office, 7 on the picket line.
Honestly, what is the point...
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