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    #16
    He should be left in there to rot out the last few months of his life to show other crims that the law is the law regardless.


    Originally posted by Spatial101 View Post
    You're missing my point.

    I'm not saying it's right, I was responding to Sumire's comment that he was getting away with it. Some people seem to be missing that he isn't skipping off into the Libyan sunset for a tea party and a life as a national hero. He's going to die a very nasty death, very soon.

    All I'll say is that dont be surprised if he pulls a Ronnie Biggs & makes a full recovery from his 'illness'.

    Doesnt send out a good message now does it?

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      #17
      So he's faking terminal prostate cancer now?

      Not not only that, but he's managed to fake a terminal condition so well that he's pulled the wool over the eyes of several Prison Service doctors and independent consultants?

      I think in your excitement your tin foil hat has slipped off...

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        #18
        He was convicted due to the inherent need of American families to "get somebody, anybody will do". That is a cultural thing - the benefits of this culture can be seen in the wonderful position we find ourselves in in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

        I think, as he was convicted, he should be in jail. He was in jail.

        Compassion is a completely different thing. What I like is the theory that he was evil because he denied people lives. So, to prove that that was the wrong thing to do, we should do that too because he would do it. Harsher and harsher sentencing does not lead to drops in crime.

        As someone stated above this is not gonna get potential terrorists all excited. As I see it, there are three ways to look at this as a potential troublemaker:

        A) makes no difference
        B) people (who are not American) are impressed and think that people in the UK are not as bad
        C) potential terrorist thinks "Ha ha. Now, if I am caught (but obviously I am not planning to get caught), all I have to do to get out of prison is have a delibitating and painful disease and then I will be free! Free I tell you!!!! And then I will die anyway."

        I should add that I actually do not agree with the decision. The final decision. The fact that the conviction was dodgy should make no difference, he was convicted. If that is dodgy, that part of it should be investigated.
        He also killed (and we have to assume conviction was correct as the decision is made on this basis) 270 people. I do believe in the concept of compassion but I do not think it should have been extended in this case due to the severity of the crime. I dothink, however, that the correct procedures were followed, just the final decision is up to the people in charge.
        Last edited by saif; 20-08-2009, 13:42. Reason: added personal opinion

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          #19
          It's like the Daily Mail's comments section in here sometimes

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            #20
            I blame illegal immigrants and political correctness gone mad!

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              #21
              If he is guilty then he should never be released, the victims were not shown any compassion so why should their killer be shown compassion.

              His release is purely political, the conspiracy theorist in me suspects this was the plan all along.

              Defo dodgy deals afoot............

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                #22
                Originally posted by Geo-V6 View Post
                Defo dodgy deals afoot............
                I wouldn't like to think so but it all seems to perfect, he is already at Glasgow airport

                Washington has already stated to have deep regret over his release

                I suppose its nice to have an institution that offers a release if you are within 3 months of dying just so you can spend it with your family

                Would somebody who was a serial rapist/killer be released from prison 3 months prior to their death, probably not because they would re-offend

                Going to track the fallout of all this over the next few days as i'm sure more information will come to light and if he does infact get a Heroes welcome in Lybia -

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Spatial101 View Post
                  You're missing my point.

                  I'm not saying it's right, I was responding to Sumire's comment that he was getting away with it. Some people seem to be missing that he isn't skipping off into the Libyan sunset for a tea party and a life as a national hero. He's going to die a very nasty death, very soon.
                  I'm with Spats on this. He's a c*nt, but he's not getting away with it. He's going to die a very slow, painful death, have all his dignity removed in the process, and eventually die, gasping for his last breath.

                  As Spatial also said, the big man upstairs has served the justice.

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                    #24
                    In this case they had thought about releasing him from prison and have him stay somewhere in Scotland to live out his days but, unsurprisingly, they decided this would be impossible.

                    As for him being at Glasgow airport already, it shouldn't be a surprise and doesn't mean there was anything dodgy in that particular aspect. The Libyans announced his release just before Kenny MacAskill had finished giving his statement.

                    With a decision on a high profile case like this, they don't sit on their hands until they make the actual announcement. Various agencies would have been told about it well in advance (the news agencies went into the press conference coverage reporting that he was to be freed on grounds of compassion so the decision was already `out there`).

                    With something so controversial they don't leave them sitting around for fear of giving people time to plan reprisals.

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                      #25
                      the victims were not shown any compassion so why should their killer be shown compassion.
                      Because we are not terrorists. We are *better* than that.
                      Do household with violent backgrounds turnout law abiding citizens?

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Spatial101 View Post
                        So he's faking terminal prostate cancer now?

                        Not not only that, but he's managed to fake a terminal condition so well that he's pulled the wool over the eyes of several Prison Service doctors and independent consultants?

                        I think in your excitement your tin foil hat has slipped off...
                        But after seeing what happened to Biggs I'm very cynical. I wonder if we'll ever hear from him again once he dissappears into the crowds in Lybia, maybe to live out a full life? If we dont hear of his death in the next 3 months then we'll know summat is dodgy

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                          #27
                          he hardly had it hard in the jail did he, a custom made cell with TV internet access and all mode cons and his family was set up in a very posh house in Newton Mearns area of Glasgow if this is justice im off to Libya to do the same and i expect the same treatment (as if) more messages of crime sure does pay , while im busting my balls paying for it all.
                          Last edited by MisterBubbles; 20-08-2009, 15:32.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Jebus View Post
                            I'm with Spats on this. He's a c*nt, but he's not getting away with it. He's going to die a very slow, painful death, have all his dignity removed in the process, and eventually die, gasping for his last breath.

                            As Spatial also said, the big man upstairs has served the justice.
                            The reason I don't buy that as 'justice' is that the man upstairs serves that same fate to a hell of a lot of very good people.

                            If he is guilty, and you would hope we're dealing with a system where that has to be the case or he wouldn't have been convicted (though I'm not always convinced of that), I see no reason why, ill or not, he shouldn't serve out his term in prison regardless of what the man upstairs had planned for him.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
                              The reason I don't buy that as 'justice' is that the man upstairs serves that same fate to a hell of a lot of very good people.
                              Indeed, people like my dad and my aunt.

                              Y'know what, I wouldn't wish what my dad suffered and eventually died off on my worst enemies. My dad was the strongest man I've ever met (even now), an army guy, took bullets in the leg, watched his mates die in front of him but by God, what it did to him, I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen if with my own eyes.

                              He's going to suffer an unimaginable pain that robs him of everything. He's not getting away with anything.

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                                #30
                                Jane Tomillison was told she had 1 year to live in 2000 and died 2007, so when this passes the 3 months he has to live dont be surprised, should never have got out, ashamed to be Scottish today.

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