Little things that irk you 2

[noobish hat]

I love that the rise of the internet has kind of come round and bitten those people in the arse. I imagine a very large percentage of people in a certain age bracket never thought they'd have to be communicating primarily through writing.

[importaku]

Guess my tolerance to bad grammar is a lot higher than most then as it rarely bothers me. I get more annoyed when people swoop in & totally dissect someones post due to it missing a full stop or some other minor detail.

[Colin]

I'm not talking about little things or typing mistakes though Importaku, they're always going to happen, i'm talking about people who write stuff as if they've got shoes on their hands and sand in their brains.

[J0e Musashi]

Guess my tolerance to bad grammar is a lot higher than most then as it rarely bothers me. I get more annoyed when people swoop in & totally dissect someones post due to it missing a full stop or some other minor detail.

You should really have said "and" instead of using an ampersand.

[importaku]

Ah gotcha LOL

[fuse]

This is why I don't grasp the concept of limited editions. It seems like S-E played it safe with a small print run but surely they know that it's just going to sell out really quickly and start bidding wars among collectors? They'd sell so many of those books if they had more than just one run.

I think S-E originally published it via Digicube in Japan and it did pretty much the same thing, sold out super quick and pushed disappointed collectors into bidding wars. Dark Horse were handling the UK release and seemingly either didn't forsee the same thing happening again, or are arseholes.

[MonkeyJuggleDX]

My other half refusing to 'Lactate my phallus' this morning. Apparently she had to take the kids to school or some other inconsequential matter like that.

[Pikate]

Guess my tolerance to bad grammar is a lot higher than most then as it rarely bothers me. I get more annoyed when people swoop in & totally dissect someones post due to it missing a full stop or some other minor detail.

I agree, it's a language? As long as the person reading understands you why does it matter if you adhere to some antiquated rules of grammar? Why belittle someone else because you have superior syntax and your brain moonlights as an Oxford Dictionary? Unless you're Noel Coward or Oscar Wilde it's really not going to get you anywhere in life or win you many friends. Go to any hospital and Doctors/Surgeons have terrible handwriting/spelling/grammar. They're not idiots, they just don't need to proof read.

[J0e Musashi]

I agree, it's a language? As long as the person reading understands you why does it matter if you adhere to some antiquated rules of grammar? Why belittle someone else because you have superior syntax and your brain moonlights as an Oxford Dictionary? Unless you're Noel Coward or Oscar Wilde it's really not going to get you anywhere in life or win you many friends. Go to any hospital and Doctors/Surgeons have terrible handwriting/spelling/grammar. They're not idiots, they just don't need to proof read.

*gets evil sister to beat up*

[noobish hat]

Yeah, but the meaning of a sentence can change entirely based on the placement of an apostrophe or a comma. People may be able to read what you're written, but whether they take away the meaning you intended is a different matter. I don't believe it is all readable at a basic level anyway. Here it's not so bad. There are only a couple of people who write in such a way as to make their point utterly incomprehensible. Go elsewhere on the web COUGHYOUTUBECOUGH COUGHYAHOOANSWERSCOUGH, and it's an outright joke.

Putting that aside, seeing poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation is like listening to a piece of music filled with duff notes. You might be able to recognise what the tune is supposed to be, but it sounds like **** and it's unpleasant to listen to. Having the exact same writing style and making the same mistakes in English as you did when you were under ten doesn't make you seem all that intelligent either. It's not that hard to understand where apostrophes go. If you made the same incredibly basic mistakes in, say, maths, I don't think it would be so easily forgiven.

[charlesr]

Sorry that my semi-joke thread is now spreading around the forum....

[Pikate]

Yeah, but the meaning of a sentence can change entirely based on the placement of an apostrophe or a comma. People may be able to read what you're written, but whether they take away the meaning you intended is a different matter. I don't believe it is all readable at a basic level anyway. Here it's not so bad. There are only a couple of people who write in such a way as to make their point utterly incomprehensible. Go elsewhere on the web COUGHYOUTUBECOUGH COUGHYAHOOANSWERSCOUGH, and it's an outright joke.

Putting that aside, seeing poor grammar, spelling, and punctuation is like listening to a piece of music filled with duff notes. You might be able to recognise what the tune is supposed to be, but it sounds like **** and it's unpleasant to listen to. Having the exact same writing style and making the same mistakes in English as you did when you were under ten doesn't make you seem all that intelligent either. It's not that hard to understand where apostrophes go. If you made the same incredibly basic mistakes in, say, maths, I don't think it would be so easily forgiven.

I disagree. Very rarely, if ever, does a misplaced or absent comma change the meaning of a sentence in the context of the text/conversation. Even above you put "you're written" which is obviously "you've written" or "you're writing". A completely different tense but either way I understood your point.

Perhaps I'm a little touchy because looking at the grammar thread I felt like a moron for not knowing when to use "Affect" or "Effect" and I'm not even sure I'm 100% on the concept of a noun and a verb, yet in my immediate family I probably have the highest grasp of the English language (I'm 100% my dad wouldn't even be in the ballpark of what a verb is) which I get the feeling some here would find comical or a sad reflection on the state of society today. Yet, I wonder what that gets any of those people in life? It's never been an obstacle to me, even with my shoddy English I've nearly completed a Medicine degree and am on course to become a highly qualified Cardiologist. My dad is borderline illiterate by the standards in the grammar thread yet he's a successful engineer, owns outright a large detached house in Alderley Edge, a spacious apartment in the 16th arrondissement of Paris, even bought my sister and I Range Rover Sports last year. So I fail to see how poor grammar is the damning indictment of a person it's starting to become in these parts recently.

[Colin]

I wish I wasn't a mod right now, I can't really say what I want to.

[Mayhem]

Go to any hospital and Doctors/Surgeons have terrible handwriting/spelling/grammar. They're not idiots, they just don't need to proof read.

Until it has to be read by someone else, and then it's the equivalent of



Mistakes in grammar and spelling on an online forum, text message, twitter post etc are fine with me. When it's something professional, or will be read by other people in a professional capacity, then it makes the writer look very poor and unprofessional.

[noobish hat]

You understood what I said because I only made one mistake. I'm not saying you're not allowed to make mistakes. If you'd pointed to that word when I was writing it, I would have said 'ah, yes' and corrected it. I wouldn't have stared at you blankly, not knowing what was wrong, and then ploughed on making similar mistakes several times per sentence. If I'd done that, it would have ended up like most other 'English' on the internet - incomprehensible.

The fact that somebody can become successful despite being illiterate tells me that everybody else has stopped giving a ****. That's not an invitation to join them. That's another thing to add to my list of reasons to go on a kill spree.