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    I chose Sunderland because my dad supported them. I was born there. When I became aware of them, they were just about to be relegated from Division 2 to Division 3. First game I went to at Roker Park was 2-2 vs Blackpool in the old Third Division. They weren't on live terrestrial television until they played Arsenal at home in the first Division a few years later. 0-0 in the pouring rain on a Saturday evening. By the time I'd become conscious of what utter hapless losers this club has been since pre-war times (barring 73), it was too late. Indoctrinated.

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      Remember my job offer? Now it's got difficult.

      I got my boss in a meeting room and told him I'll be handing in my resignation letter after we leave the room and he was gutted. He asked me what's wrong, listened what I had to say and then asked what it'll take to keep me. I told him how much more the other company want to pay me, the benefits along with what I hated about my current work place and he then asked could I hold on till the end of this working day? I really did not expect that.

      When we left the meeting room he went over to the CEO and asked could he chat for a bit, now the CEO has been out of office upstairs most the day, talking to others. I'm guessing they'll attempt to match or exceed the other companies offer and maybe address some of the issues I have with this company.

      This went from awkward but simple, to difficult and hard.

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        Originally posted by nakamura View Post
        It's a myth anyway.

        I love it when people chime in saying you should support your local team etc. Most people choose their favourite team as a child where that kind of rational thinking isn't possible. Especially when your local team isn't on television.

        Glad you had a good time Chris.
        Indeed. I was 6 years old when I chose to support Manchester United. Schmeichel is still my favourite player ever and I kinda stopped following football when he retired. lol

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          Originally posted by Wools View Post
          Remember my job offer? Now it's got difficult.

          I got my boss in a meeting room and told him I'll be handing in my resignation letter after we leave the room and he was gutted. He asked me what's wrong, listened what I had to say and then asked what it'll take to keep me. I told him how much more the other company want to pay me, the benefits along with what I hated about my current work place and he then asked could I hold on till the end of this working day? I really did not expect that.

          When we left the meeting room he went over to the CEO and asked could he chat for a bit, now the CEO has been out of office upstairs most the day, talking to others. I'm guessing they'll attempt to match or exceed the other companies offer and maybe address some of the issues I have with this company.

          This went from awkward but simple, to difficult and hard.
          My bet is they will come back with an offer but not quite enough. when it comes to getting an increase next year you will be on the bottom of the pile.

          my opinion is to move on, gain more skills and experience.

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            Originally posted by Wools View Post
            Remember my job offer? Now it's got difficult.

            I got my boss in a meeting room and told him I'll be handing in my resignation letter after we leave the room and he was gutted. He asked me what's wrong, listened what I had to say and then asked what it'll take to keep me. I told him how much more the other company want to pay me, the benefits along with what I hated about my current work place and he then asked could I hold on till the end of this working day? I really did not expect that.

            When we left the meeting room he went over to the CEO and asked could he chat for a bit, now the CEO has been out of office upstairs most the day, talking to others. I'm guessing they'll attempt to match or exceed the other companies offer and maybe address some of the issues I have with this company.

            This went from awkward but simple, to difficult and hard.
            Well congrats on the offer, Wools! No big move is ever easy. Leaving a job is like a break-up and the fact that this seems to have hit them hard is a sign of how good you are. And not everyone recognises that in a workplace, often having no idea of the actual value of their employees. So as weird as it may sound, the messiness is actually a sign of something positive.

            See what they come back with. Only you can make the decision. But my gut tells me that you will be better off making a move so unless they come back and blow that other offer out of the water and put you in a position where you could craft the workplace environment you would want then you're probably better off going. A new place, new experience, new opportunities. Good luck, dude!

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              [MENTION=680]Wools[/MENTION] - you should (almost) never stay at a place once you've made the decision to leave. The issues you have there will (almost again) certainly not change to your liking and you'll be known as someone who has intentions to leave. Good luck in your NEW job!

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                [MENTION=680]Wools[/MENTION]

                I agree with the others. When you're caught up in the whirlwind of offers and counter offers it's easy to forget just how long it's been since you first felt things weren't great and weren't going to get better.

                You'll know whether or not your grievances are irreconcilable but I think you already decided what you should do. It's rarely just about the money, anyway, and it begs the question - if they can fix whatever issues you're having, why couldn't they before? Maybe you never voiced your grievances. Regardless, I also say enjoy your new job. You'll meet new people, get back into training and that have that great feeling of levelling up your skill set. Also, starting fresh means a nice upward trajectory so your pay rises will be better than they would at your current place even if you hadn't told them you're leaving.

                One thing I'd recommend is not to play them against each other so they compete for you. Think of your wellbeing at each place and decide where you'd prefer to stay long-term rather than who'll offer what when they're faced with competition.
                Last edited by randombs; 19-08-2015, 13:47.

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                  Plus, don't forget Janine in the typing pool at the new office.

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                    Something that made me smile today was coming across a bit of promo artwork of Fatal Fury 2, of Terry Bogard playing the arcade game. Decided to make it a new avatar.

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                      Thanks for the advice and opinions everyone, we'll see how today goes.

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                        If you keep on harassing Janine you might have to be looking for a new job anyway...

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                          Originally posted by Asura View Post
                          Something that made me smile today was coming across a bit of promo artwork of Fatal Fury 2, of Terry Bogard playing the arcade game. Decided to make it a new avatar.
                          It's a great avatar! I love SNK's artwork, especially some of their boxart such as KOF '97 and '98

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                            Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
                            Well congrats on the offer, Wools! No big move is ever easy. Leaving a job is like a break-up and the fact that this seems to have hit them hard is a sign of how good you are. And not everyone recognises that in a workplace, often having no idea of the actual value of their employees. So as weird as it may sound, the messiness is actually a sign of something positive.

                            See what they come back with. Only you can make the decision. But my gut tells me that you will be better off making a move so unless they come back and blow that other offer out of the water and put you in a position where you could craft the workplace environment you would want then you're probably better off going. A new place, new experience, new opportunities. Good luck, dude!
                            Thanks Dog!

                            They could not match the salary I've been offered but offered nearly ?10K more, so I asked them to leave me till this morning so I can make my decision. It was really difficult to choose but the new place is such an exciting opportunity, the only good thing I could think of staying for was the people. They're very important to me and I love them but every other facet of this job offer was better, so I handed in my notice this morning.

                            Everyone's been lovely about it despite me feeling like a dick for leaving. So, T-minus 4 weeks till I leave, I've got a week off in-between, then I start at my new job! Nervous but really excited!

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                              well done. onwards and upwards.

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                                Originally posted by Wools View Post
                                Thanks Dog!

                                They could not match the salary I've been offered but offered nearly ?10K more, so I asked them to leave me till this morning so I can make my decision. It was really difficult to choose but the new place is such an exciting opportunity, the only good thing I could think of staying for was the people. They're very important to me and I love them but every other facet of this job offer was better, so I handed in my notice this morning.

                                Everyone's been lovely about it despite me feeling like a dick for leaving. So, T-minus 4 weeks till I leave, I've got a week off in-between, then I start at my new job! Nervous but really excited!
                                Excellent! Well done on making the decision and congratulations! Very exciting for you. It will be a very good thing.

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