So, after a run of these which have related to gaming or quite generalistic things I want to try taking the next few into much deeper territory, more of a social debate angle loosely based on real world events.
We've discussed religion on here before but I think one thing we should get out of the way before delving in is that this thread isn't going to be about our individual religious beliefs or lack of. Instead of talking about varying beliefs the subject for this thread is:
The rise of atheist or liberal views or attitudes in the first world reflects old religiously driven societal influences being worn down as attitudes change. Modern discussion relates heavily to the rights of individuals and the acceptance of others whether it's equality for women, the black lives matters movement, LGBT+ rights and treatment, victim abuse etc and in many cases much of the long standing attitudes that drive the positions people take are religiously driven.
We see change slowly creep in via various ways. Were families have moved to the country their children often grow up with increasingly westernised attitudes with each generation. Those with generations of family history in one country also have to deal with changing societal accepted norms that conflict with the beliefs that are instilled in them. The Church is constantly debating its stance on various matters, reviewing and changing what it does and doesn't condone or accept based on the texts it adheres to and the changing world around it.
The issue then arises two-fold:
1-If religious beliefs and stances etc can change over the course of twenty years then the amount of change that they would have gone through in thousands of years would make them unrecognisable in comparison to their origins.
2-If social attitude changes affect religion then much of how religious doctrine has been like in the past would be eroded by modern attitudes now and going forward.
So the question is, though religious beliefs will likely always exist, can the religions as we know them survive in the ever changing and individual rights driven modern world if adapting to those changes means undermining the belief structure of that religion?
We've discussed religion on here before but I think one thing we should get out of the way before delving in is that this thread isn't going to be about our individual religious beliefs or lack of. Instead of talking about varying beliefs the subject for this thread is:
The rise of atheist or liberal views or attitudes in the first world reflects old religiously driven societal influences being worn down as attitudes change. Modern discussion relates heavily to the rights of individuals and the acceptance of others whether it's equality for women, the black lives matters movement, LGBT+ rights and treatment, victim abuse etc and in many cases much of the long standing attitudes that drive the positions people take are religiously driven.
We see change slowly creep in via various ways. Were families have moved to the country their children often grow up with increasingly westernised attitudes with each generation. Those with generations of family history in one country also have to deal with changing societal accepted norms that conflict with the beliefs that are instilled in them. The Church is constantly debating its stance on various matters, reviewing and changing what it does and doesn't condone or accept based on the texts it adheres to and the changing world around it.
The issue then arises two-fold:
1-If religious beliefs and stances etc can change over the course of twenty years then the amount of change that they would have gone through in thousands of years would make them unrecognisable in comparison to their origins.
2-If social attitude changes affect religion then much of how religious doctrine has been like in the past would be eroded by modern attitudes now and going forward.
So the question is, though religious beliefs will likely always exist, can the religions as we know them survive in the ever changing and individual rights driven modern world if adapting to those changes means undermining the belief structure of that religion?
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