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    A coup is entirely appropriate at this point.

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      Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
      John Barrowman nearly had his career trashed for the third time over the same story simply because he'd been on the same show a decade ago as Noel Clarke when the allegations about Noel emerged so you can only imagine the scale of punishment Noel will receive following a criminal review and over twenty women stepping forward against him...

      Scotland Yard says specialist detectives have decided not to proceed after a "thorough assessment" of accusations published by The Guardian from 20 women who knew Clarke in a professional capacity.

      None, the police won't be taking it further
      The police can't take the allegations against Noel Clarke further for the same reason that BAFTA couldn't really do anything until very, very, very late in the day by retracting the award they gave him after giving it to him - nobody has actually come forward, for fear of reprisals and/or loss of anonymity, etc.

      On top of that, if you know anything about the massive influence that Noel Clarke had on British film and television on both sides of the camera, then it's fair to say that he has been cancelled considerably, or at least as much as it is possible to be in the circumstances. Also worth pointing out that what has happened to him will almost likely have the effect of the British Film & TV industry almost certainly never allowing any other BAME people to have the power that Clarke had going forward. That in itself is damaging when you consider that BAME people have traditionally found being successful in the UK arts tough going (the most recently successful examples have had to cross the Atlantic for proper opportunities). This definitey won't make it easier.
      Last edited by Nu-Eclipse; 28-03-2022, 15:05.

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        He had a business partner didn't he in a production company? Assuming the other person was unaware it sucks for them too as I imagine mere association will sink their career. It's definitely going to be another big hurdle considering how for many already BAME representation begins and ends with Idris Elba in the UK

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          Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
          He had a business partner didn't he in a production company? Assuming the other person was unaware it sucks for them too as I imagine mere association will sink their career. It's definitely going to be another big hurdle considering how for many already BAME representation begins and ends with Idris Elba in the UK
          Yup. The actor Jason Maza was his business partner. Together, they ran Unstoppable Productions and produced Bulletproof for Sky One. Maza was alleged to have reached out to Clarke's victims and coerced them into staying silent.

          Not sure that I'd go along with the assertion of BAME representation in UK arts beginning and ending with Idris Elba, tbh...Daniel Kaluuya, Chiwetel Ejiofor, John Boyega (a brilliant stage actor that I've had the privilege of watching live), Naomie Harris, Letitia Wright, Dev Patel, Riz Ahmed....I could name quite a few others but, like I said, the common denominator is that they and many other British BAME actors have had to go across the pond to access opportunity that isn't necessarily available here and the Clarke situation obviously doesn't help that.
          Last edited by Nu-Eclipse; 28-03-2022, 16:42.

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            It doesn't begin and end with Elba in literal terms, just that for your average Joe Elba is effectively the go to name with most I'd expect even unaware many of the other currently successful names are even British. It's like the old 'casting a black Bond' scenario where Elba's name always comes up, he doesn't remotely fit the role, people just struggle to think of another name. Like you point out, Clarke was successful but very notably within a British film and TV sense which is a massive hole punched through now, especially with his partner being in on it

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              Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
              It doesn't begin and end with Elba in literal terms, just that for your average Joe Elba is effectively the go to name with most I'd expect even unaware many of the other currently successful names are even British. It's like the old 'casting a black Bond' scenario where Elba's name always comes up, he doesn't remotely fit the role, people just struggle to think of another name. Like you point out, Clarke was successful but very notably within a British film and TV sense which is a massive hole punched through now, especially with his partner being in on it
              I get what you're trying to say. But sorry I'm not going to agree with you. I think the "average Joe" is more discerning than you want to give credit for.

              Boyega was in the Disney Star Wars movies, Kaluuya (an Oscar winner) & Ejiofor have been in the MCU. Patel is an Oscar nominee for Slumdog Millionaire. These guys are more visible than you seem to realise, tbh.

              Yes, Idris Elba has clout for a lot of popular culture present-day, but the Bond talk died quite a while ago. People still talk about him being Stringer Bell in The Wire more than they do about him being a new 007.

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                UK exports have dropped 14% due to Brexit, while the rest of the EU grew 8%.

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                  Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                  UK exports have dropped 14% due to Brexit, while the rest of the EU grew 8%.

                  https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/ne...s-been-317591/
                  Brexit catastrophic, nooooooooo, really?

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                    Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
                    Brexit catastrophic, nooooooooo, really?
                    Clearly all the fault of COVID/War in Ukraine/Jeremy Corbyn/Keir Starmer/The Labour Party/Remoaners not being positive enough about the UK (delete as applicable).
                    Last edited by Nu-Eclipse; 29-03-2022, 05:54.

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                      Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View Post
                      Clearly all the fault of COVID/War in Ukraine/Jeremy Corbyn/Keir Starmer/The Labour Party/Remoaners not being positive enough about the UK (delete as applicable).
                      Yep, and everyone will believe it.
                      Canada has reported an increase in UK people moving there. Anyone with an education and the means to leave are doing so.

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                        Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                        Canada has reported an increase in UK people moving there. Anyone with an education and the means to leave are doing so.
                        Like the US but with Universal Healthcare & Gun Control.

                        Funnily enough, I'm sure I read somewhere that British emigration to the US has declined sharply in recent times (might be wrong about that but CBA to Google it right now).

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                          I'd love to move to Canada


                          MPs take Russian election interference case to human rights court | European court of human rights | The Guardian
                          A group of MPs head to court fighting against russian interference in the general election - because only Tories should be allowed to use misinformation etc!


                          The Met has issued twenty fines for partygate. Wait for that to turn out to be 20 fines to one fall guy MP

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                            Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                            Yep, and everyone will believe it.
                            Canada has reported an increase in UK people moving there. Anyone with an education and the means to leave are doing so.
                            I'd move there in a heartbeat if I could
                            No transferable skills & no money behind me to do it all go against me but I would honestly kill to get away from this ****hole right now

                            Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post

                            The Met has issued twenty fines for partygate. Wait for that to turn out to be 20 fines to one fall guy MP
                            This is laughable the fines will just be paid with tax payer money & put through on MP expenses
                            Like they think this will make any difference whatsoever

                            Neil

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                              Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
                              Brexit catastrophic, nooooooooo, really?
                              I literally intend never to vote again unless there’s a clear option available to rejoin the EU (and yes, I’ll settle with a longer term approach that starts with EEA/single market membership). Possibly would accept voting for a small no-hoper party like Volt UK if they stand candidates. But vote for legitimising Brexit by voting for the Tory/Labour duopoly, nope. Never.

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                                A leading Government advisor says the scale of profiteering around PPE is disgraceful

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