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Tory MPs tell Truss: sack Kwarteng or face mutiny | Conservatives | The Guardian
Truss warned to ditch Kwarteng
Almost 1,000 mortgage deals pulled as panic grips UK housing market | Mortgages | The Guardian
The number of axed mortgage deals continues to sky rocket
Bank of England in £65bn scramble to avert financial crisis | Bank of England | The Guardian
The Bank of England makes a dive to save pension funds and shore the pound in a move that still isn't working
Labour membership rises as party ends conference buoyed by polls | Labour | The Guardian
Whilst Labour membership soars
The shortest serving UK Prime Minister ever lasted 199 days
Truss has done 22 days
Going for the record?
Good job she didn't go for a windfall tax... I mean, that really would have been what put off investing in the UK....
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Are some people here really in favour of a Labour government?
The one consistent trait of Labour governments (and whilst we're at it councils too), is that they love making apparently plausible but really just idealist, extravagant promises, playing to the gallery, which they can never fulfill. They will try though by spending all the money the previous Tory government created until that runs out. But they still keep spending until the economy is in such a dire state you have to vote in the Tories to sort out their financial mess.
Cue years of austerity - then the roller coaster starts all over again.
What the solution is I have no bloody idea but if you want the country to dig itself into an even deeper financial hole, a hole for which the Tories are only partly responsible, then vote in a Labour government.
You really will get the authentic taste of the late 1970s when the Labour Chancellor Dennis Healey had to go cap in hand to the IMF to bail them out, three years of discontent later, strikes, Labour left-wing militantism all culminated in the election of Margret Thatcher. Then you can enjoy years of unemployment hell and the dismantling of much of the UK's unprofitable heavy industry as her government sorted out the problems with a sledge hammer.
I really don't want to go through all that again.
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We're getting on for 20 years of the Conservatives running the country. Labour haven't had anything to do with it since 2010 (not 2005!).
Their failed austerity policies have only caused the national debt to skyrocket as they simply don't work. They know this, they've had many years to look at the figures, but they kept pursuing them because their core voter base is turned on by any policies that cause the poor to suffer - even if it ultimately causes them to suffer also. A few years ago, George Osbourne had to abandon their longstanding pledge to return a budget surplus by 2020 as the idea they would ever do it was just starting to look comical. Despite this, we've had enough money to bail out gambling banks, fund the HS2 white elephant and - adopting a policy that made other countries think we have absolutely lost the plot - we decided to give free money to private energy companies. Following a huge cost-of-living crisis and enormous levels of strikes across pretty much every sector in the country - the country they have been running since 2010 - they have now managed to crash the economy with a policy of... tax cuts???
After all this, the narrative that the Conservatives can "sort out" our economy is laughable. When are they going to do that then? Do they need another 20 years? It's like me saying the reason I didn't get my work done yesterday is because I only got a B in GCSE Maths.Last edited by Hirst; 29-09-2022, 07:31.
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Originally posted by fallenangle View PostAre some people here really in favour of a Labour government?
The one consistent trait of Labour governments (and whilst we're at it councils too), is that they love making apparently plausible but really just idealist, extravagant promises, playing to the gallery, which they can never fulfill. They will try though by spending all the money the previous Tory government created until that runs out. But they still keep spending until the economy is in such a dire state you have to vote in the Tories to sort out their financial mess.
Cue years of austerity - then the roller coaster starts all over again.
What the solution is I have no bloody idea but if you want the country to dig itself into an even deeper financial hole, a hole for which the Tories are only partly responsible, then vote in a Labour government.
You really will get the authentic taste of the late 1970s when the Labour Chancellor Dennis Healey had to go cap in hand to the IMF to bail them out, three years of discontent later, strikes, Labour left-wing militantism all culminated in the election of Margret Thatcher. Then you can enjoy years of unemployment hell and the dismantling of much of the UK's unprofitable heavy industry as her government sorted out the problems with a sledge hammer.
I really don't want to go through all that again.
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Originally posted by Hirst View PostWe're getting on for 20 years of the Conservatives running the country. Labour haven't had anything to do with it since 2005.
Tony Blair's Labour Government was in its third term of power in 2005. He resigned in 2007 and Gordon Brown took over as PM. David Cameron lead the Tories to power (as part of the coalition with the Lib-Dems) in 2010.Last edited by Nu-Eclipse; 29-09-2022, 06:19.
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