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    They need to be placed under a proper regulating body like OFGEN to protect the consumer and stop profiteering.

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      And the government could reinstate the anti collusion laws.

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        Oil prices were higher throughout 2011 & 2012 than they are now.

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          Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
          will attract scrutiny
          and how many years in prison is it for that

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            Originally posted by charlesr View Post
            Oil prices were higher throughout 2011 & 2012 than they are now.
            This isn't true.

            In 2008 there was a short period when the prices were higher, but they higher than 2011 & 2012 and have been since the end of March.



            If you meant Brent Crude, then there have been a couple of spikes higher



            Wheat prices also peaked in 2008. Did something happen in 2008? Can't remember now - (looked it up, it was the financial crash. so some people made a killing clearly)



            Edit - oh, source is here. Lots of charts to play with: https://tradingeconomics.com/
            Last edited by MartyG; 13-06-2022, 16:19.

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              Originally posted by MartyG View Post

              In 2008 there was a short period when the prices were higher, but they higher than 2011 & 2012 and have been since the end of March.
              Yeah, I was looking at crude here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-1976/
              I don't remember the pump prices doing the same crazy rises to match.

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                There's also a shortage of refinery capacity, which is driving the prices up.

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                  Originally posted by charlesr View Post
                  Yeah, I was looking at crude here: https://www.statista.com/statistics/...es-since-1976/
                  I don't remember the pump prices doing the same crazy rises to match.
                  They're using an average, so it's not a true picture, the spikes pushed it up to make it look like it was higher for that whole period. It wasn't, only for a couple of weeks which is probably why the pump prices didn't jump massively (you can drill down on the link I posted with better data). Now we've been having to sustain a higher price for a number of months.

                  Just glad I don't commute anymore.

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                    Government to stop subsidising electric car charging stations

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                      I'd been putting off getting mine installed as the car's not going to be delivered until the end of the year but looks like it might cost more now

                      On the same day my energy company has suggested doubling my monthly direct debit. Oh joy.

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                        Hopefully home charger prices will come down if there is now government grant. Installers were taking the mick charging so much for a pretty easy job. Scottish EV buyers can still get a £250 rebate post installation and the 0% loan scheme for buying an EV is still available too.

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                          Child type 2 diabetes referrals in England and Wales jump 50% amid obesity crisis | Diabetes | The Guardian
                          Easy and quick first step, make the sugar tax a greater sliding scale based on content so that it encourages lower content by allowing companies to steer their products towards having lower prices as a result

                          Additionally, make it a legal requirement for all products with a sugar/fat/salt content above a set threshold to reduce that amount by a percentage on an every other year basis. You wean the entire market off non-diet or low cal variants in the long term whilst also reducing prices in addition to providing incentives for companies to move faster on it. It also buys some cost of living crisis breathing room and time to come up with a plan to bring the cost of healthier food options down.

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                            Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                            Child type 2 diabetes referrals in England and Wales jump 50% amid obesity crisis | Diabetes | The Guardian
                            Easy and quick first step, make the sugar tax a greater sliding scale based on content so that it encourages lower content by allowing companies to steer their products towards having lower prices as a result

                            Additionally, make it a legal requirement for all products with a sugar/fat/salt content above a set threshold to reduce that amount by a percentage on an every other year basis. You wean the entire market off non-diet or low cal variants in the long term whilst also reducing prices in addition to providing incentives for companies to move faster on it. It also buys some cost of living crisis breathing room and time to come up with a plan to bring the cost of healthier food options down.
                            Honestly I'm really not a fan of the sugar tax as a concept. The government should instead work to provide more options for healthy living. But I guess it's easier to put a tax on fizzy drinks than to make sure every school has a decent gym/competent PE teachers.

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                              I don't think I've ever seen a single thing to show that the sugar tax has at all worked, or been used in a positive way beyond filling tory coffers. It always slapped of nanny state profiteering and was laughable in face of the kinds of things still available cheaply.

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                                I've said it before and the problem isn't that sugary foods are too cheap, it's that non-sugary foods are too expensive and scarce (especially in any kind of convenience form). Sugar is part of a balanced diet anyway.

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