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      Trump has (as predicted and very obviously) thrown Ukraine under the bus with his little talk to fellow fascist dictator putey. Which has raised a state of emergency through the EU NATO members.

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        So it turns out the "The Art of the Deal" is just give Putin whatever he wants as a reward for invading another country.

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          Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
          Trump has (as predicted and very obviously) thrown Ukraine under the bus with his little talk to fellow fascist dictator putey. Which has raised a state of emergency through the EU NATO members.
          I think there's something completely bent and corrupt coming, in the shape of when Trump ends his term...

          ...he gets a contract to build golf courses and hotels in Russia.

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            I really can’t believe that trumple has flipped so quickly to puteys arse hole and somehow managed to try and make this look like Ukraine is the issue here, not to mention their all dividing Ukraine up like it’s lost already, when in reality Russia is loosing, and badly.

            Ukraine is absolutely crippling Russias forces and war machine capabilities, and JUST as they start to make some head room, the US has now turned against them.

            Im f*****g disgusted.

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              I know that there's a lot of frustration with Labour but man, I'm so glad that we don't have another General Election in this country within Trumps current term. The playbook is so damned obvious and it thankfully keeps us out of the far right nutter gutter for enough years to see this all blow back on America in the coming years.

              Not just a question of how Ukraine survives and positions itself long term - the growing Axis of Evil of Russia, China and America seems set to force the EU to ringfence itself much more in the coming years and I imagine before the year is out the UK is going to find itself having to make a very definitive choice of whether to stand with that trinity and become a silo state of sorts or draw a line and bring itself much more heavily under the EU's grouping - a point where it really would strongly beg the question about a referendum on rejoining

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                Agree with FBH, not happy about this. I hope and think we'll get closer to Europe, we already have agreements with Ukraine and I think Germany too?

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                  Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                  I know that there's a lot of frustration with Labour but man, I'm so glad that we don't have another General Election in this country within Trumps current term. The playbook is so damned obvious and it thankfully keeps us out of the far right nutter gutter for enough years to see this all blow back on America in the coming years.
                  Smacks of desperate hope.

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                    The EU nato countries seem to be doubling down on helping Ukraine, but it’s probably all talk as at the same time US and Russia are carving up Ukraine like it’s a free pie. Russia is only stalling for time to rebuild and carry on with its plan.

                    No, their loosing badly right now, triple down and stick putys head on the kerb and keep stamping until every last Russian in Ukraine isn’t moving.

                    This is on its way to becoming the greatest betrayal since ww2, we should of learned from dealing with fascists, we’ve done all this, why the f are we back at this juncture again?

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                      Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View Post
                      Smacks of desperate hope.
                      I'll freely admit I am desperately hopeful Trump's rampant idiocy blows back on him and the US hard enough to disgrace those in UK politics who align with him.

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                        Originally posted by Asura View Post

                        I'll freely admit I am desperately hopeful Trump's rampant idiocy blows back on him and the US hard enough to disgrace those in UK politics who align with him.
                        Tell me you've completely misunderstood my point without telling me.

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                          Whats the F did i just whiteness with the Zelenskyy trumple meeting today? ive never seen anything like it, i'm not sure how much higher my disgusted meter can go but those F nut fascists keep finding new lows.

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                            I love how they say it was a shouting match, I think Zelensky said 3-4 words before he was yelled over by the angry potato man talking about the war Zelensky is very much in and comparing it to a game of ****ing cards.

                            Its the first time I've made myself hear trumps voice since he got in (I've seen GIFs and had things on mute) as I cannot stand the man but I'm visiting my parents and they were watching the news.

                            It's appalling.

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                              I liked seeing someone stand up to the bullies, Vance and Trump. The news on TV reported that Zelenskyy must be upset with how badly it went, but my thought is it didn’t go badly, that’s just what you get from these dickheads when you don’t cow tow.

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                                I was getting really worked up listening to that twat Vance. So much so I was wishing Zelenskyy would smack him in the face.
                                I mean, Vance was acting like some **** stiring antagonising arse hole. A punch in the gob was sorely needed.

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