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    Wagner group needs to think more carefully about its involvement. I get that they're for hire but they're clearly annoyed at the handling of the war and their own involvement in it and being sent in to take a territory is useless when Russia can't maintain the resources the hold it once taken so they're basioally willingly committing to letting themselves add to the body count ultimately. At some point they need to actively think a bit harder about their involvement as that support from Russia just isn't going to come.

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      In reality it’s Putin that needs to think very carefully on how he treats Wagner. Wagner group is more or less solely representing for guarding all of Putins bolt holes and stashed cash. The Central African Republic bolt hole reportedly has over $12b in gold and cash, all those stashes will disappear if Putin isn’t very very careful.

      By not supporting Wagner a lot of the Russian front lines will collapse as well as its Wagner holding the whips.
      Last edited by fishbowlhead; 06-03-2023, 12:46.

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        Wagner will have a slow and growing realisation that not only is the war lost, but that Russia is completely inept.
        If the guy in charge is losing patience and faith, then the troops must be much worse.

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          If Russia continues to be this inept the Wagner Group might as well turn around and take Russia instead

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            Originally posted by Yakumo View Post
            They must have been watching the Young Ones and seen how effective a shovel is when twating Rik over the head.
            Indeed, Rik with the silent 'P'.

            However if they were using Spear and Jackson no.3's as per Ripping Yarns then the Ukrainians would have some serious problems!

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              It’s been widely reported that Wagner have been cut off from both Putin & ammunition/supplies.

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                Looks like the above is all deliberate in order to purge Wagner of troops.

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                  Which is madness and gives an insight into Russian politics and machinations.

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                    Wagner are probably throwing inmates they recruited from Russian prisons, and less manpower will damage Russian efforts to advance in Ukranian territory. Can't say I feel sorry for criminals, but it surely sucks dying on the frontlines of a war of aggression like you are a conscript in WWII.

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                      Putin obviously feels massively threatened by Wagner and wants them out the way as a non concern. Which should in theory blow back in Putins face if Wagner suddenly pulled off the front lines and then stole all his gold they are guarding, which is what I would do just out of spite at this stage.

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                        Arrest warrant issued for Putin.

                        This might shake up the dynamics of the Russian command.

                        He is accused of forcibly deporting Ukrainian children to Russia - but Moscow says the warrant is meaningless.

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                          It’s something at least.

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                            Poland will transfer the first four Mig-29s (out of 14 or less) will be transferred to Ukraine, in a fully working status, within the next few days, according to Polish president Duda.
                            In addition to that, the Slovakian parliament unanimously approved transferring 13 more Mig-29s to Ukraine.

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                              Some good news. I did see a Ukrainian commander was instantly dismissed last week for accidentally blurting troops numbers lost on Ukrainians side, possibly 140k lost so far, if true it’s a massive loss of life in both sides.

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                                Putin visits locals in Mariupol


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