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[wakka]

They are very difficult for the average person to break into but law enforcement do have ways of getting in. If this really is an old phone it's probably running an old version of iOS which will make life easier.

And it isn't a criminal investigation so why would MI5 or the police be involved in any way?

Yeah...good point.

[Hirst]

Whatever the problem is, I'm pretty sure they could present the phone to one of those guys on the indoor market with a neon "Mobile Phone Unlocking" sign and he'd have it all sorted in 10 minutes. Probably put a new battery in it for £15 too.

[gunrock]

I don't know what type of phone it is, but you'd be surprised how hard they are to crack. The FBI has asked Apple to help them unlock phones or offer a back door and theyve said no.
Then whatsapp is also encrypted.
If he 'Can't remember' the pass code to unlock the phone, I don't know what the police digital forensics team can do.

The FBI asked Apple because it would make their life easier, not because they couldn't do it.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/jul/14/rishi-sunak-force-english-universities-cap-low-value-degrees

So, they'll just do more high cost ones

[Cassius_Smoke]

https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...-value-degrees
So, they'll just do more high cost ones

If you want a well rounded and forward progressive country you need creative thinkers. You won't get that if you force them into STEM or politics courses.
Yes there's always the joke of Art degrees being 'Pointless'. But not everyone wants to be the next big artist. Most will take those degrees and work as designers, graphics artists and the like. We need a breadth of courses.

[fishbowlhead]

They are very difficult for the average person to break into but law enforcement do have ways of getting in. If this really is an old phone it's probably running an old version of iOS which will make life easier.



Yeah...good point.[/INDENT]

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I’m not sure there’s any way outside of Apple decrypting the device, or social engineering your way in, iPhones have ridiculous layers of security.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jul/15/councils-in-england-and-wales-join-calls-for-ban-on-disposable-vapes

Disposable Vapes are being lined up for bans

[Cassius_Smoke]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...sposable-vapes
Disposable Vapes are being lined up for bans

The whole vap thing needs some form of regulation. Disposable ones which are thick plastic with a battery cause nothing to harm to the planet.
And the refill ones you fill up with an unknown liquid made by some random mom and pop company. Who knows what's in it?

[Anpanman]

I’m not sure there’s any way outside of Apple decrypting the device, or social engineering your way in, iPhones have ridiculous layers of security.

I thought there was an Israeli company that could do it.

[wakka]

I’m not sure there’s any way outside of Apple decrypting the device, or social engineering your way in, iPhones have ridiculous layers of security.

As a normal person, yeah. As a high value target, there are ways in.

[Brad]

The entire point of the level of encryption we use today is that it’s unbreakable. You can only get in if the encryption has been implemented incorrectly or there’s a bug in the code somewhere in the chain and you have an exploit. Or the user has a garbage password like ‘borisftw’ (which is likely in this case )

[Cassius_Smoke]

OK, so doing some Internet digging it seems police can access the data on a locked iPhone/android but its not straight forward and not 100%. They can also decrypt messages with varying degrees of success.
Basically it's possible but not a given. It's much easier to get the pass code.
Plus I'm guessing, for a court case, they'll be asked how they got the data and question how valid it is if they had to use a somewhat janky way to get it, rather then just unlock the phone.

[Anpanman]

To follow up on my previous comment you have this albeit from a few years ago;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35883441

...and this;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegasus_(spyware)

[Asura]

When it comes down to it, it's preopostorous that MPs aren't, upon taking up office, assigned a phone in the way businesses assign employees a laptop, and are instructed (upon threat of forced gentical smashing) to never use their personal phone for any messaging to other members of the government, or government business (which for an MP I honestly expect to be pretty much everything they do, all the time, given their wages).

Hell, I'd be fine with MPs expensing said phone at the start of their tenure. And I don't even mind it being a top-end model; communication is surely 90% of what they do. But it should ultimately be a phone that belongs to the taxpayer, overseen by an IT department.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2023/jul/17/two-child-benefit-cap-labour-conservatives-rishi-sunak-education-uk-politics-latest?page=with:block-64b4e5608f08ce64897ee2c8#block-64b4e5608f08ce64897ee2c8

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