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    Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View Post
    I guess you could say that the BBC have failed to put their best foot forward?
    They are certainly side stepping the issue.

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      Originally posted by fishbowlhead View Post
      They are certainly side stepping the issue.
      They'd probably tell you that they're doing that because it's too hot to trot.

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        Originally posted by MartyG View Post
        It would have been the same for any high-profile presenter at the BBC
        I'm pretty sure that Alan Sugar literally went on Twitter to tell people not to vote for Labour at the 2019 General Election and likened Jeremy Corbyn to a Nazi sympathizer.

        I don't recall The Apprentice being axed or the Director-General asking him to step back from it.

        The businessman withdraws a tweet featuring Jeremy Corbyn in a car with Hitler, after online backlash.

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          When Andrew Neil made a sexist tweet the BBC said they don't get involved with personal twitter accounts and did nothing.

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            How difficult can it be to have a social media policy in place for all to see? Most companies have one. "no politics, sexism, criticism of the company (talk to us)" etc

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                Braverman must be real angry at the idea of the BBC impartiality being questioned in connection to her policy.... Oh.

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                  Originally posted by QualityChimp View Post
                  Well well well. Linekers solicitors will be having a field day with this.

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                    Originally posted by charlesr View Post
                    How difficult can it be to have a social media policy in place for all to see? Most companies have one. "no politics, sexism, criticism of the company (talk to us)" etc
                    Doesn't really fly these days though; it's difficult for a company to say "no politics" in such a policy because "no politics" actually means "silently support the status quo", which is a political stance.

                    Companies might say "defamatory statements made against the company may result in a disciplinary action", but that's the thing here - Lineker didn't criticise the BBC, he criticised a government policy, an entity which is supposed to be separate. He wouldn't be sanctioned for criticising Raleigh Mountain Bikes, Cadbury's, P&O Ferry Cruises or Burger King.

                    The fact that he is being disciplined is the BBC openly admitting something they have insisted has not been true for years - that the BBC is a ministry; an arm of the government.

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                      Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View Post
                      I'm pretty sure that Alan Sugar literally went on Twitter to tell people not to vote for Labour at the 2019 General Election and likened Jeremy Corbyn to a Nazi sympathizer.

                      I don't recall The Apprentice being axed or the Director-General asking him to step back from it.

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43604058
                      Yup and he used his platform to tweet "Don't vote for Corbyn" during the election, what was done? nothing.

                      The most damning thing for me with regards to impartiality was when Johnson was in power the BBC's chief political editor Laura Kuenssberg was a close personal friend of Johnson and went for Christmas dinner at his house. Her twitter was like a goverment mouth piece where she would ignore negative story's about the current government but jump on any tiny unsubstantiated scrap of a story about Labour, (this was proven by study's showing the percentage of negativity vs positivity was massively skewed in the governments favour and the reverse was true for the opposition. did she get reprimanded for impartiality nope.

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                        Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                        Yup and he used his platform to tweet "Don't vote for Corbyn" during the election, what was done? nothing.
                        I mean... that's basically what I said...

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                          Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                          The most damning thing for me with regards to impartiality was when Johnson was in power the BBC's chief political editor Laura Kuenssberg was a close personal friend of Johnson and went for Christmas dinner at his house. Her twitter was like a goverment mouth piece where she would ignore negative story's about the current government but jump on any tiny unsubstantiated scrap of a story about Labour, (this was proven by study's showing the percentage of negativity vs positivity was massively skewed in the governments favour and the reverse was true for the opposition. did she get reprimanded for impartiality nope.
                          Her politics show on Sunday ended with her reading out two emails criticising Gary Lineker.

                          Sounds like he's coming back, though:
                          Gary Lineker to return to Match of the Day as BBC announces review of social media guidance

                          Tim Davie, the BBC’s director general, said in the same statement:
                          "Everyone recognises this has been a difficult period for staff, contributors, presenters and, most importantly, our audiences. I apologise for this. The potential confusion caused by the grey areas of the BBC’s social media guidance that was introduced in 2020 is recognised. I want to get matters resolved and our sport content back on air.

                          Impartiality is important to the BBC. It is also important to the public. The BBC has a commitment to impartiality in its charter and a commitment to freedom of expression. That is a difficult balancing act to get right where people are subject to different contracts and on air positions, and with different audience and social media profiles. The BBC’s social media guidance is designed to help manage these sometimes difficult challenges and I am aware there is a need to ensure that the guidance is up to this task. It should be clear, proportionate, and appropriate.

                          Accordingly, we are announcing a review led by an independent expert – reporting to the BBC – on its existing social media guidance, with a particular focus on how it applies to freelancers outside news and current affairs. The BBC and myself are aware that Gary is in favour of such a review.

                          Shortly, the BBC will announce who will conduct that review. Whilst this work is undertaken, the BBC’s current social media guidance remains in place.

                          Gary is a valued part of the BBC and I know how much the BBC means to Gary, and I look forward to him presenting our coverage this coming weekend.”



                          "Also, I'm fed up with all the attention on me both being a massive Tory donor and also arranging a massive loan for Boris Johnson at the same time he was appointing this role that I coincidentally was appointed."
                          He didn't add, but I suspect he's thinking.

                          EDIT: this last bit is about Richard Sharp. Davie has his own links to the Tories. He was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s and stood unsuccessfully as a councillor in 1993 and 1994.
                          Last edited by QualityChimp; 13-03-2023, 09:52.

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                            Originally posted by QualityChimp View Post
                            Accordingly, we are announcing a review led by an independent expert – reporting to the BBC – on its existing social media guidance, with a particular focus on how it applies to freelancers outside news and current affairs. The BBC and myself are aware that Gary is in favour of such a review.

                            Shortly, the BBC will announce who will conduct that review.
                            Gonna call it now. It's gonna be Nick Clegg. He works in a senior position at Facebook doing something similar.

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                              Originally posted by QualityChimp View Post
                              "Also, I'm fed up with all the attention on me both being a massive Tory donor and also arranging a massive loan for Boris Johnson at the same time he was appointing this role that I coincidentally was appointed." He didn't add, but I suspect he's thinking.
                              Tim Davie is the BBC's Director-General (basically editor-in-chief). He isn't the one involved in the Tory donor/loan/cronyism scandal (although he is/was a Tory Party member - another conversation in itself).

                              Richard Sharp is the BBC Chairman (a Government-appointed role). He's the one who is currently under investigation for Tory cronyism and has refused to step away from the role while the investigation takes place.

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                                I suspect it will be a mate of Tory MP.

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