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    Just melt him in a drum of acid already ffs, such a waste of everyone’s time him existing.

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      Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
      Republicans should be much more concerned that after nearly a decade their sole hope remains a man who has none of their interests at heart, a known criminal who will prioritise himself over their needs and acts as a lifeline to a party with a sustained vaccuum of personalities within itself who can lead the party once Trump is either permanently out of office or in the ground.
      You just can't believe it.

      The party of the religious right is going to elect a man who, it is widely known beyond contention, paid to have sex with a porn-star.

      A SECOND TIME.

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        Yep, no matter what they proclaim to the contrary the arguments made in favour of Trump completely oppose the aims people say they want. A whole campaign on 'making America great again' when in fact if you support Trump at all it means that you actively hate your own country because he is systematically tearing it apart

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          We can at least take joy in the desperation Trump is wallowing in - I'm pretty sure that as much of front as he's trying to put up, behind the scenes he's both fuming and crapping himself given there's no clear workable defense based on the indictments; most of the rope comes from the Trump camp's own emails, messages, telephone calls, and actions - these are tangible things that can't be denied.

          The only way that many of these accusations laid out in the various indictments can be rebuffed is for Trump himself to take the stand under oath and deny them, I can't imagine any defense lawyer wanting to take the risk of doing that as the prosecution would have him tied up with a bow in short order, he would never be able to stay on script.

          No wonder he's desperate to get the power to (try and) pardon himself.
          Last edited by MartyG; 02-08-2023, 17:39.

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            Trump's lawyer will rely on defending Trump by saying he could say what he did due to his right to free speech
            An epically weak argument then.

            Amazon deforestation falls over 60% compared with last July, says Brazilian minister | Amazon rainforest | The Guardian

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              I can't go back to there being no escaping the orange ballsack on the news constantly, his voice fills me with a rage normally reserved for my hatred of the bastard seagull that's been scratching the roof of my car every morning if I forget to put it in the garage.

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                Same. It was relentless and impossible to avoid. I hated it. I don’t want it again.

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                  Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                  Trump's lawyer will rely on defending Trump by saying he could say what he did due to his right to free speech
                  It didn't protect Snowden (for secrecy violations) and it didn't protect various seditionists over the centuries.

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                    Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                    Trump's lawyer will rely on defending Trump by saying he could say what he did due to his right to free speech
                    An epically weak argument then.
                    Yes but it will no doubt create a FoX media **** storm where people who don't understand freedom of speech will start saying

                    "those god dam commy Liberals are trying to take our freedom of speech!!!!!"

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                      You'd like to think that this will go down as the lowest point in US political history when it's looked back on - but I honestly don't think we've reached the bottom of the trajectory yet.

                      The nonsense in the soundbites is embarrassing - devoid of all logic, reason and common sense - imagine reading some of this stuff in the tombs of history ... George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D. Roosevelt, George W Bush, Trump - if you weren't alive to see it, I reckon you'd think there was a printing error.

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                        Yeah it’s proper end of empire stuff.

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                          Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                          Yep, no matter what they proclaim to the contrary the arguments made in favour of Trump completely oppose the aims people say they want. A whole campaign on 'making America great again' when in fact if you support Trump at all it means that you actively hate your own country because he is systematically tearing it apart
                          Except his supporters believe the left is tearing the country apart with Hunter's laptop, trans rights, teaching kids about gay sex and drag queens, extreme wokeness, and Trump is there to bring the country back together by eliminating all that.
                          Lie with passion and be forever damned...

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                            I think that highlights how moronic they are. There are Republicans who will happily pursue those goals for their own self-ambition but don't get anywhere because of the cult of Trump. Trump on the other hand won't deliver them anything, he's entirely too self-serving to actually do any of it and the part that remains the most bewildering is that all the evidence they need is right there in front of them - he's already served a full term, there's no reason at all for anyone to buy into his BS anymore. Water is less transparent than Trump

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                              Alberta withdraws support for 2030 Commonwealth Games bid due to cost | Commonwealth Games | The Guardian
                              After Australia abandoned the 2026 Commonwealth Games, Alberta abandons 2030's putting the events future in question.

                              Good.

                              There's zero reason why the games need to stop but what does need to stop is the disgusting handling of it and clear profit making machine. Put it in a location that already houses the required facilities and slash the costs to a tiny fraction.

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