America & the World V: DOGE Business

[Neon Ignition]

100%, they're completely unnecessary

[Anpanman]

I agree too, when our daughter went to secondary though they were told they should really have a phone as all their homework was sent to them via the school's internet portal.

[briareos_kerensky]

Noth Korea unveiled copies of the MQ-9 and RQ-4 drones, and even publishes a video with one of the firing a missile; the video is probably fake, given the drone is firing what looks like a Hellfire. The drones themselves appear to be genuine though, and have apparently have alredy taken flight.

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https://www.nknews.org/2023/07/north-korea-debuts-new-spy-and-combat-drones-that-mimic-us-models/

[Asura]

Noth Korea unveiled copies of the MQ-9 and RQ-4 drones, and even publishes a video with one of the firing a missile; the video is probably fake, given the drone is firing what looks like a Hellfire. The drones themselves appear to be genuine though, and have apparently have alredy taken flight.

I can definitely believe they can build those, and may have been for a while. There are videos on YouTube of private individuals without much budget building drones to fly hundreds of miles using solar power, or in one case to land underwater, perform underwater manoeuvres, then rise, take off and fly again. If amateur enthusiasts can do that, I'm certain some dedicated people in North Korea can build these sorts of drones.

[Neon Ignition]

I get distracted by those tweets now (if they're called tweets anymore) as the X looks like it wants me to click to close a pop up

[Neon Ignition]

Trump faces more charges in classified documents case as second aide named | Donald Trump | The Guardian
Even more charges for El Tango

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2023/jul/28/trump-classified-documents-charges-indictment-jan-6-politics-live-updates?page=with:block-64c3bf428f08db2904abb5f9#block-64c3bf428f08db2904abb5f9

Trumps former Lawyer has said that the evidence against the former President is overwhelming

[Asura]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...08db2904abb5f9
Trumps former Lawyer has said that the evidence against the former President is overwhelming

I'm incredibly worried that we're going to see two things happen in 2024:

(1) Trump is found guilty of crimes which, if nothing else, permanently bar him from being US president again
(2) Trump is elected as president, or, if (1) happens too early for that, it's very obvious Trump would win if not barred

This will set the will of the US electorate in a headlong clash with the US Judiciary; i.e. it pits democracy directly against common law in a way that has never been historically tested, at least not in modern times. Judges in the US are (mostly) elected; however, it's not unlike Trump to ignore inconvenient details and use that as a chance to brand them as "the deep state" or whatever bull**** plays to his supporters at that given moment.

Things could get very ugly.

[MartyG]

I'm incredibly worried that we're going to see two things happen in 2024:

(1) Trump is found guilty of crimes which, if nothing else, permanently bar him from being US president again
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Yeah, that first one won't happen - being a convicted felon doesn't prevent you from running for, or being president.

[Asura]

Yeah, that first one won't happen - being a convicted felon doesn't prevent you from running for, or being president.

Yeah; you're right that prisoners in the USA are not, necessarily, disenfranchised. There are crimes which do that, but I don't think Trump is dealing with that.

But the point still stands; if he gets elected and found guilty, perhaps even in a way that requires imprisonment, what happens then? It starts to become a farce.

[MartyG]

Well technically he can run his presidency from his prison cell - but I don't disagree it'd be a farce. A president being able to pardon himself has not yet been tested in US law either, I'd imagine that's the path we'd see trodden if it happened.

Yeah; you're right that prisoners in the USA are not, necessarily, disenfranchised. There are crimes which do that, but I don't think Trump is dealing with that.

I'd be interested to know where you sourced that, because having researched this a while back, there is no such barrier I could find. The only thing that bars you from running is an impeachment upheld in the Senate.

[Neon Ignition]

As he'd never be placed in a prison environment it could be that he'd be house arrested to the White House for the 4 terms but for the Republicans there'd be no end of headaches. Imagine the trouble of the last term he served with the added issues of having a known criminal as your leader who would undoubtedly spend his entire time trying to use his power to wriggle out of his post-Presidency situation rather than on anything at all they want. Regardless of what happens for Trump followers, his next term would be his last so they're racing to a cliff edge rather than laying the groundwork away from him and back to more manageable ground. It's a sign of weakness that they've failed so spectacularly to leave him behind.

[Protocol Penguin]

I’m concerned about Trump becoming president again and essentially pardoning himself, but I’m more concerned about another GOP disaster getting into the White House and pardoning Trump.

[MartyG]

Trump looks sure to win the primaries, so he will be the GOP candidate - only him dropping out seems likely to stop that at the moment.



Polling for US president still favours Biden, but it's not by a large margin - it's still way too early to draw any insight from it for 2024 mind.

[Neon Ignition]

Republicans should be embarrassed by those stats. If Trump remains your best weapon it speaks volumes of the rest of the party