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    I really don't get how Trump is the front-runner for the Republicans, he's mired in so much controversy that you would think that he would be the last person they would want to be representing their party, the stuff Pilling up against him so far

    hes got Epstein links coming out the wazzoo, hes getting banned from running in certain states and then there is all the court cases relating to fraud, intimidation, sexual assault, insurrection, and the mishandling of classified government documents.
    Last edited by Lebowski; 05-01-2024, 11:05.

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      A toxic mixture of cult of celebrity, racism, people who just want to burn everything down, sexism etc. The Republicans have also allowed themselves to chase populism too much for the sake of power and are stuck in the same cycle the Tories are now whereby that lightning rod moment has seen an influx of deadbeat racists get voted in, people who don't know their a*** from their elbow which has drowned out any politician with a clue of what they're doing - particularly following Trump's eagerness to fire everyone of competence when in power. Now they will stick with him because they are stuck with just two options - Trump, who may win, or a sea of incompetent wannabe's who model themselves on him without understanding why he attracts attention.

      Like Braverman etc, they're incapable of understanding that it's impossible for them to replicate Trump. His specific brand might be vile but it's a particular one that doesn't apply to anyone else. They're so blind to everything that they can't even grasp the notion of what his second term would realistically be like, it wouldn't go well even for his most staunch supporters.

      There isn't a single defensible position anyone supporting Trump can argue his case from. He is literally the enemy of every value they claim to support, invalid by every measure they argue against Biden and the Democrats, incapable of delivering anything they want and is genuinely marching the Republican Party toward a wipeout.

      The US is so far down this road now that they don't even spend time on either side considering the real crisis looming the party:

      What is the Republican Party now without Trump?

      Putting everything aside, the man is nearing 80 himself. Even if he wins, his next term is his last. The Republicans are razing their own ground for the sake of a maximum of four years which will largely be spent in court fighting impeachments and corruption charges as Trump spends his entire presidency trying to escape jail. They can't even full let him either because the more presidential freedom they give him the more that they give future Democrat presidents. Whether by death or electoral defeat, a reckoning is coming for the Republicans much as we're seeing now with the Tories. When his time is over that groundswell of voters will vanish and the Republicans are a shell without him at this point.

      But it would be a very 20XX thing for the worst president in American history to be voted back in.

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        If Trump gets to president this year, the federal charges will get dismissed given that he'll control the AG and replace all possible positions with loyalists.

        It's also entirely possible it wouldn't be his last term, given we've already seen total disregard for the US Constitution, it requires people in position to uphold it, and the idea with Project 2025 is to make sure they don't exist.

        Also, the Republicans aren't going to just disappear as people who vote Republican aren't suddenly going to start voting Democrat in mass numbers, regardless of who the candidates are, there's largely been a 50:50 split with small variation historically, and given the sportster nature of US politics, is likely to remain so.

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          In regard to the republicans not going away, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Trump Jnr take over from his old man when Trump stops challenging for office, in the same way we got George Bush Jnr following in the footsteps of his dad George Bush SNR.
          Last edited by Lebowski; 05-01-2024, 12:46.

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            The party won't go away but there will be a vacuum created by the 'what now?' factor. A bit of a resetting of the battle lines because there will likely be a major drop off in the number of voters across the board. The trouble with the Trump family element is it's like the Republican Far Right nominee issue - none of them are remotely close to holding the same appeal. Once Trump is done, this whole approach will be too. Hopefully he loses in November... and keels over at some point soon too

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              Macron elbows his Prime Minister, Elisabeth Borne, out of her role in an attempt to save his own job at the upcoming elections. She has made it clear she didn't want to go but that Macron had made it clear he wanted to replace her.

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                Says everything about his plans:

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                  The race for Republican nominees begins today and the early polling suggests that Ron DeSanti's campaign might die at the first hurdle

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                    Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
                    Says everything about his plans:

                    One of Trumps current court case is revolving around if the president should have absolute immunity from prosecution, the argument put forward against this is if he did have complete immunity then what's to stop him killing or imprisoning his political rivals? Trump's team are not backing down from this position, which is crazy .

                    I don't think trump realises what he's arguing for he's not president Biden is, We could end up in a situation where if Trump goes on to win this case, Then Biden could legally kill imprison, bankrupt or ruin Trump with no recourse as the current sitting president has complete immunity.
                    Last edited by Lebowski; 15-01-2024, 14:31.

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                      This is why the Republicans are being particularly dumb, never considering how all this can just as easily work against them.


                      Trump wins in Iowa as Republican contest kicks off 2024 presidential race | US elections 2024 | The Guardian
                      Iowa voted Rob DeSantis as their second place runner up Republican Primaries nominee by the very skin of his teeth. Nikki Haley narrowly saw herself pushed into third place.

                      By a landslide they voted that the state fully endorses Rape, Corruption, Fraud, Racism and Insurrection.

                      Speaking of, Trump promised to give all police full immunity if he wins a second term.

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                        Police Immunity from what? No doubt Rounding up and imprisoning anyone that's wronged him, Judges, political rivals, protesters ECT.

                        If Trump gets back in he will make sure he's never out of office again, the first thing he will so do is remove the two term limit, he will spend the rest of his term dismantling the US's political system so that he's never out of office again.

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                          How will Trump be celebrating today? By attending trial to find out how much he will pay out for a second time for sexual assualt



                          66% of Iowa voters said that they believe Biden didn't win the 2020 Election despite zero evidence he stole it

                          65% of the voters said that even if convicted of the many crimes Trump is in trials over, he would still be fit for office


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                            Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                            If Trump gets back in he will make sure he's never out of office again, the first thing he will so do is remove the two term limit, he will spend the rest of his term dismantling the US's political system so that he's never out of office again.
                            This is not possible as it requires an amendment to the constitution, and that requires 38 states to agree to it, which will never happen. There is no power for the president to unilaterally change the constitution, regardless of what MAGA thinks.

                            But that doesn't really matter as it was never a case of removing it, it'd be a case of those in the seats of power not upholding it - the constitution only works if people follow its rules - so make sure that those people won't, which is what Project 25 is about.

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                              Republican debate cancelled after Haley refuses to take stage without Trump | Republicans | The Guardian
                              Haley continues her new strategy of going in harder on Trump

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