UK XI: I Want To Ride My Diecycle

[Neon Ignition]

Minimum wage is UK’s ‘most successful economic policy in a generation’ | Minimum wage | The Guardian

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/mar/27/rishi-sunaks-triple-lock-pension-conservatives-labour-angela-rayner-uk-politics-live?page=with:block-6603f7fc8f0891b675f7695a#block-6603f7fc8f0891b675f7695a

An elections expert has given Labour a 99% chance of winning the General Election

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/mar/27/rishi-sunaks-triple-lock-pension-conservatives-labour-angela-rayner-uk-politics-live?page=with:block-6603d8c08f08aa6adb8dc884#block-6603d8c08f08aa6adb8dc884

Ex-Tory warns that keeping the triple lock may mean raising retirement age sooner

Russell T Davies says end of BBC is ‘undoubtedly on its way’ | Television | The Guardian
And it's time to prepare shows like Doctor Who to outlive it

[fishbowlhead]

Hang on, there’s a retirement age?

On a serious note all they will do is F the now generation, both now and in the future, to keep the near retirement people’s vote. Then, when we get to retirement, nope, poof, no more pensions sorry, all gone.

[Lebowski]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/25/tories-sadiq-khan-attack-ad-new-york-london

how embarrassing

look at the state of the tube in london!!!

Thats New York

IS IT!!! can't say myself or any one in our party has ever been on a tube, so it's an easy mistake to make.

[Neon Ignition]

https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/status/1773422562443153413

Sigh

[Protocol Penguin]

Minimum wage is UK’s ‘most successful economic policy in a generation’ | Minimum wage | The Guardian

I mean, the NMW was actually radical and controversial when it was first proposed then enacted. I remember the Tory and LibDem parties were vehemently opposed to it, claiming having a NMW would cause economic catastrophe and mass unemployment. Which never happened, and both parties at least outwardly pretend to accept the NMW.

[Neon Ignition]

The idea was admirable but never set to work without some level of control over the rest of the market. Prices have just automatically inflated to adjust ever since which is why no-one ever feels better for it. Walking I to a Supermarket on 01 April alone exposes how the market abuses the NMW

[Protocol Penguin]

Would you rather go back to the days of jobs being advertised with 25p/hour wages, as regularly happened during the 1990s before the NMW was introduced?

[Neon Ignition]

Depends what the prices of things are. NMW can be raised to £50 per hour if they want but it won't matter if price hikes outpace it

[Nu-Eclipse]

Depends what the prices of things are. NMW can be raised to £50 per hour if they want but it won't matter if price hikes outpace it

And just who is responsible for the inflation and price hikes over the last fourteen years?

Also, please, tell us what you think a better economic policy in the last generation than the NMW is.

[fishbowlhead]

It’s just getting to the point where its pointless employing people, as the cost and sheer hassle far outweighs any benefit you get out of staff.

And you can blame all that on the government.

[Asura]

The point of a minimum (ideally living) wage is that we, as a society, have decided that a person working for an appropriate amount of hours a week should earn an appropriate amount of money to live.

Asking to pay people less is either (1) asking people to work more than what we know to be appropriate or (2) asking people to live at a level that's less than what is agreed to be a minimum acceptable level.

If trying to employ someone below NMW, you're not providing a job, you're perpetuating misery.

[Neon Ignition]

NMW is only an appropriate amount of money if the market reflects that it. There's a ton of other factors but NMW only ever set a baseline to prevent exploitative employers, it doesn't drive workers and families out of poverty or destitution which is why there are European countries without it that have a higher standard of living.

Infrastructure spending etc all have a much bigger beneficial impact on people and the economy than NMW does, same with healthcare with the reduction of either carrying a much heavier impact, something we're all sadly going to feel sharply in the coming years as the bill comes due on the Tories mishandling job.

[Nu-Eclipse]

NMW is only an appropriate amount of money if the market reflects that it. There's a ton of other factors but NMW only ever set a baseline to prevent exploitative employers, it doesn't drive workers and families out of poverty or destitution which is why there are European countries without it that have a higher standard of living.

Infrastructure spending etc all have a much bigger beneficial impact on people and the economy than NMW does, same with healthcare with the reduction of either carrying a much heavier impact, something we're all sadly going to feel sharply in the coming years as the bill comes due on the Tories mishandling job.

"Mishandling"??

You mean wilfully choosing austerity?

Please stop using language that deliberately downplays the damage that the Tories have done over the last fourteen years.

[fishbowlhead]

"Mishandling"??

You mean wilfully choosing austerity?

Please stop using language that deliberately downplays the damage that the Tories have done over the last fourteen years.

Please don't just blame the Tories, the entire political system has been dismantling and selling off to their crony pals anything of need or use to the public since the 60's. Power, infrastructure, water, transport, and next the NHS (which has already begun), everything that's a necessity and the public NEEDS.

This isn't a 1 party issue, this is a political issue of the highest order in this country, every one of them is to blame, ALL OF THEM.