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    Originally posted by Shakey_Jake33 View Post
    What's the best option for someone in Kyoto who wants to go to Tokyo quite often? Are there train passes or something like that?
    Originally posted by Len View Post
    We used a JPR (Japan Rail Pass) for the Shinkansen from/for Tokyo - Kyoto - Tokyo over a week or so, so I'm sure you can probably do something similar over a longer period.

    Have a look here:

    http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en001.html
    Same as Len said Shinkansen (bullet train) I`m sure there is some sort of pass you could get. Maybe a rail pass. Localo trains would take forever but are cheap.

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      Originally posted by Square View Post
      Is that ?120 for both of you, or just one?
      That's the both of us.

      The trick we found was to have a light breakfast at a coffee shop or some-such (like Denny's) and then have lunch at about midday when a lot of places are doing their amazing value set lunches where the portions are very generous...mmm...Katsu-don!

      This would mean we'd only need a smaller meal at the end of the day and, well, who can get bored of Ramen? I mean, a huge bowl of noodley, pork broth goodness for 800 Yen or less!!

      Stuff like visiting gardens / temples have a very small fee (if at all) and the more touristy things we spaced out to keep the costs averaged.

      To be fair, my wife and I like to just mooch about taking photos of interesting and random things so our trip was always going to be lower.

      So yeah, that ?120 included Metro tickets, random refreshments and tat purchased on individual days.

      Anything left over was then set aside and splurged on the final Akiba-day!

      This year we're looking at a similar amount per day. Tokyo can be an expensive place to visit if all you want to do is sit in fancy bars / restaurants everyday but if you go to smaller, local places then it's no more expensive than anywhere else I've visited.

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        Whats Japan typically like in July ? are there many festivals etc ? Just been looking at going for 10 days as return tickets were only 800 or so.

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          ONLY 800? Are you high up the ass? And to answer your question: ****ing unbearable.

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            Originally posted by Len View Post
            We used a JPR (Japan Rail Pass) for the Shinkansen from/for Tokyo - Kyoto - Tokyo over a week or so, so I'm sure you can probably do something similar over a longer period.

            Have a look here:

            http://www.japanrailpass.net/eng/en001.html
            Thanks. In all honestly, the main reason I ask is because I am a fan of AKB48 who play in Akihabara, so I was wondering how fesible it would be to go to Akihabara every couple of weeks. With that in mind, Shinkansen would be very expensive. It looks like there's not much in the way of regular, cost-effective transportation to Tokyo.

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              Originally posted by noobish hat View Post
              ONLY 800? Are you high up the ass? And to answer your question: ****ing unbearable.
              That seem to Low/High ? I'm guessing its the heat thats unbearable ?

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                correctomundo. The heat and humidity mean that I would never ever go in June/July. 800 seems incredibly high to me, I only ever paid that once, to fly direct with BA, and my LEA ended up paying for that anyway.

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                  800 is from Ireland to Tokyo and direct from heathrow so I didn't think it was too bad. Might have to reconsider if the heat is going to be that bad though

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                    The summers here absolutely kill me, I literally cannot function and feel as though I'm sick day after day. It's the only time the thought of going back home crosses my mind.

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                      when me and my friend were at tokyo gaidai, we'd finish our lectures at about 11am and just stumble the 20 feet to our apartment building, almost collapsing, then we'd just lie down on the bed with the air conditioning on full, and not move until about 9 at night, then we'd go out and get some food. Horrible horrible weather. Winter is nearly as bad because it isn't cold, but the japs think it is, so the air conditioning in shops makes it so uncomfortably hot that you can only stay in there for about five minutes.

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                        I went in late July. The humidity meant stepping off the plane felt like stepping into a just-used shower, but I kept the aircon off as much as possible (much to the annoyance of the mate I went with!) and got used to it soon enough. I suppose if you're studying and not on holiday then it'd be different, but I liked feeling l33t. Highest temp while I was there was about 34'C on the day before I returned.

                        When I went early that December, it was as noobish says - not too cold for me (I rarely wore a jacket, even late at night, sometimes just bopped around in a tshirt) - but too cold for them lot.

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                          February was good. Cool temps and amazingly clear blue skies! Perfect walking weather; in that after spending the day mooching about you didn't feel uncomfortable.

                          ?800 does seem pricey for flights. JAL seem to be running an almost continual special offer of Heathrow - Narita for ?630. If you check on Expedia I'm sure you can get a cracking deal. That's who we've booked with for May. Virgin flights, 12 nights hotel for ?950ish per person!!

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                            Originally posted by Fargo View Post
                            Whats Japan typically like in July ? are there many festivals etc ? Just been looking at going for 10 days as return tickets were only 800 or so.
                            Plenty of festivals and fireworks displays during the Summer. I'd personally highly recommend the ones around Tohoku in early August.. Akita's Kantou matsuri, Aomori's Nebuta Matsuri, Hirosaki's Neputa Matsuri, and Sendai also has the most well known Tanabata Matsuri and they're all held around the same time so it's possible to get to a different one each day.

                            I haven't been but I think Kyoto has the Gion Festival during most of July (though the main events are focussed on a few specific days).

                            If you go a bit earlier the biggest festival in Tokyo is the Sanja Matsuri in May, but there are some large firework displays over July-August.. tho be warned the crowds are absolutely horrendous.

                            I also quite like the Summer heat in Japan.. hate the Winter as I tend to feel the cold and Japanese homes are freezing.

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                              I don't particularly like the heat in summer either, especially when you are dressed in wellies, long trousers, long sleeved shirt, hat and gloves humping around 35 kilo bags of rice.

                              Our nearest big cities, Kobe and Osaka might get mosquito's but not in the quantity we get out in the countryside along with the other wildlife like wasps the size of sparrows.

                              Still, wouldn't swap it for the world and the Awa Odori festival in August is tremendous.
                              ...must put some pics up...

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                                Oh I forgot about that delightful bonus to the ****ty weather: insects. Pain in my arse they are. I got some anti mosquito wrist bands from a vending machine but i don't think they worked. They smelt like corpses though, so that was good. Not as bad as in Taiwan though. I came back from there with lumps on my arms the size of golf balls. I'll say it again - West rhymes with best; coincidence?

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