Which other forums do you visit to buy/sell games?

[NemesiS]

The one reason i actually like AV is the point that all offers and all correspondance has to be kept in the thread so all deals are totally transparent.

What i often find annoying on here is when you offer asking, only to be told it has been sold to someone who has PM'd. It would make more sense to have people who are PM'ing offers to at least list what items they are PM'ing for in the thread.

Some posters do post PM'd, but you don't know what for.

A small annoyance i know but it really irks me sometimes.

[Soundwave]

The one reason i actually like AV is the point that all offers and all correspondance has to be kept in the thread so all deals are totally transparent.

What i often find annoying on here is when you offer asking, only to be told it has been sold to someone who has PM'd. It would make more sense to have people who are PM'ing offers to at least list what items they are PM'ing for in the thread.

Some posters do post PM'd, but you don't know what for.

A small annoyance i know but it really irks me sometimes.

Thats the same thing I'm not too fond of on here, I wish that when people are making offers for games it was on the thread first rather than just jumping in with PM's.
Still it works here so I'll just have to learn to get in quicker with an Item I want lol

I generally only buy games from here.
DVD's I've used AV Forums regularly now for a few years.

I've also dabbled a couple of times & bought games from Shmups, Rllmuk & Neo Geo Forums
But only a couple of times, each time I've found them to be generally good & friendly.

Aside from that though I dont go anywhere else...basically if you guys dont have it, it's not worth buying

Neil

[Strolls]

I just find that all the replies-in-thread at AVforums makes it a nightmare to navigate & keep up with. If I read / recall the rules properly then you're supposed to reply to offers within 30 minutes (otherwise the offer is open to anyone else to accept??) which is kinda a joke considering we all have to sleep sometimes.

I really like the way forums software shows in bold threads with new posts. This is really handy when you go back to a site & want to check what's been happening in the last couple of days since you were there. So if I get an email telling me I've got a PM or a reply to a trading offer, I don't want to open it immediately because that would effectively mark all threads as read again.

So of an evening I go to my web-browser and open up my 5 favourite forums in tabs, then I go to my email and I've got about 3 or 4 notifications from AVforums in my inbox, so I click on all the links in those - suddenly I've got about 9 windows open, and I go through each window trying to correspond "send the money to [email protected]", looking up "find all posts from foo" and working out which disks I wanted from the bloke and how much money I'm supposed to be sending him, it all turns to a bit of a nightmare. You've got all these windows open, and they all look the same. You have to subscribe to threads there, because otherwise you might miss out on a reply to an in-thread offer, and the subscriptions clutter your email - I easily get half a dozen notifications each day, I guess I should start filtering them.

It's much easier if you find someone here with the game you want - click on the username on the left, right click on "send pm" and choose "open in a new window". Then copy & paste the titles into the PM & you know what he's talking about from the subject or the quoted replies.

As for bargaining is concerned, I much prefer to haggle in private. It makes me look much less of a tightarse! And seriously, if the poster accepts a lower price from me for one of his disks, it doesn't do him any favours if that's done in public, because then everyone can see that it's worth knocking him down a quid or two.

I can understand why AVforums do it the way they do - due to the sheer volume of traffic it makes sense, and it surely minimises the hassle if there's a disputed thread. I just find it makes it difficult to navigate their forums.

[Brad]

Mainstream stuff I usually try out on another private forum but anything less common than Call of duty () I use NTSC. Also agree that here I sell stuff cheaper than ebay and also expect to buy cheaper (and do!). Lastly, anything I've bought off an NTSC member always gets offered back here. Lovely.

[stepp]

The one reason i actually like AV is the point that all offers and all correspondance has to be kept in the thread so all deals are totally transparent.

What i often find annoying on here is when you offer asking, only to be told it has been sold to someone who has PM'd. It would make more sense to have people who are PM'ing offers to at least list what items they are PM'ing for in the thread.

Some posters do post PM'd, but you don't know what for.

A small annoyance i know but it really irks me sometimes.

This is why i prefer AV to sell, i dont see why this isnt enforced here.

[DeathAdder]

This is why i prefer AV to sell, i dont see why this isnt enforced here.

I agree with Strolls - I'm glad this isn't enforced here. If I have something for sale and people want to drive a hard bargain I don't want every other potential buyer seeing the same thing and making similarly low offers.

What's the problem with the way it is? If you see PM'd in a thread with something you want, just go and make your best offer anyway, at asking price or not. If it beats the offer already made, then the seller can accept it when he comes back to his thread, unless he has already accepted whatever was in the PM anyway, in which you would have been screwed anyway.

I can see why it's necessary to keep everything in the open in a huge forum like avforums, but in a small community like here, where bad traders are very much the exception I like things the way they are.

[Brad]

I don't think enforcing people to post 'PM'd re: Game X' would help. All you'd know is that they had PM'd re: game X. Seeing that certainly wouldn't stop me from also PMing the seller. For all I know the first PM might have said "I'll give you £X less than you asked for?" while I'm offering full price, for example. In fact I don't think people should post 'PMd' messages as it pushes the seller to the top of the lsit even though nothing has changed.

EDIT: Stroppy beat me to it!

[buster_broon]

i prefer the way it is here over AVforums

i mostly trade here and generally i embargo my stuff here for the first couple of days and then post it elsewhere once teh guys here have had the pickings

i trade here, rllmuk, neo-geo.com, avforums

thats it

[TonyDA]

I prefer the way it is here - and actually wish people wouldn't post 'pm'd' on my threads at times, as it discourages others to offer. Quite a few people post that they've pm'd an offer, but then offer a stupid price for what you're selling - by the time you've said no, other buyers have thought the item was gone and have moved on.

[nintastic]

I prefer the way it is here - and actually wish people wouldn't post 'pm'd' on my threads at times, as it discourages others to offer. Quite a few people post that they've pm'd an offer, but then offer a stupid price for what you're selling - by the time you've said no, other buyers have thought the item was gone and have moved on.

As above, had that many atime. This is the number one place for me to buy/sell even after one hiccup that cost me quite abit ! grrrrrrrrr you know who you are !!!

[DeathAdder]

I guess as the seller you can tell the buyers how to respond. I'm sure nobody will object to the seller writing something along the lines of "If you're making an offer, either PM it to me, or post it in the thread, but don't just write PM'd and nothing else". Or whatever version you prefer.

Good point - I can see why that would bother a seller, even though it hasn't happened to me.

[Brad]

Depending on your viewpoint someone posting PMd has an advantage in that your sale goes to the top of the list again. I'm against this personally though.

[Welrain]

I sell newer games on Playtrade and here only for others. Been getting some crazy prices for things on play and they are also refunding the fees for the first 10 sales in January. I've sold a few for more than the original cost and the rest for gamestation style second hand prices.

[JP]

I guess as the seller you can tell the buyers how to respond. I'm sure nobody will object to the seller writing something along the lines of "If you're making an offer, either PM it to me, or post it in the thread, but don't just write PM'd and nothing else". Or whatever version you prefer.

You'd be shocked how many people complete ignore things like that in the thread though.

To keep things as transparent as possible I in my sales I always say that I'll only respond to replies in the thread so everybody can see exactly what is happening and there can't be any confusion. I also say that if people PM me initially without posting in the thread that I won't respond to their PM as it's bloody obvious what they should have done if they'd read my post.

Even with that I still seem to repeated emails from people who either can't be arsed to read the thread or have made the choice not to understand it.

This is from my last sale...

As there has been some confusion in the past, if you want to make an offer then you MUST post in this thread so that it's visible to everybody else who may be interested.

If you just PM me then I won't accept the offer and probably won't even reply.

I reserve the right to not accept offers from anybody who has been a bit of a dick when I've traded with them previously. I don't need to list names as they will know who they are.

It's really not complicated and I can't understand why a few people seem to struggle with it so much.

It just keeps things in the open and the people who are maybe interested have the advantage of getting a notification if I change the price or change what I have listed once they've left a message in the thread which could avoid confusion.