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    Erk, slightly negative impressions overall

    Ok, I've just finished the Xbox version of this. Whilst it's a relatively engaging title, theres a clear case here for it being exceptionally over hyped.

    It's not that it's a bad game, it's definately an interesting game, It's just simply not what many reviews are making it out to be.

    The first hour of play is very good, and the impression is conveyed that you really are creating an involving narrative. The opening scene in the toilet does generate the impression that whatever you do there, will substantially change what happens later. Sadly, it's just not true.

    This is a very linear, single path story, in which you can change minor details in each scene. What was I expecting? well I had been lead to expect that i could substantially change the entire path of the story whilst still keeping it roughly to the written plot. for example, i expected that if i made one choice, i might visit a different location, and do something there, which might open a whole different branch of the game later. Thus several play throughs of the game might be required to fully explore the world.

    I don't think i'm expecting too much, the old Fighting fantasy 'choose your own adventure' books Lay out a basic template for this. Important scenes in the story would always been arrived at, but various paths existed to get there there, sometimes totally independent of one another, other times subtley intertwining, so that a different path gave you a fresh perspective of things that happen in another path.

    Fahrenhiet, on the other hand is purely linear, being able to choose what order i do scenes, does not really change that in any real way. If the game was upfront about that, then there would be less of a problem, but the game itself goes out of it's way to create the impression it's some sort of organic world in which you can substantially change the experience.

    During the first play through, if you play it through without rechecking stuff in the chapters, it does a good job of creating a good illusion. It's just totally shattered when you start replaying it because you realise that the most you can do is affect minor things in a specific scene. The only real reason to even bother is to extract a bit more info about the slightly too vague plot.

    I don't want to be totally negative, i did enjoy the game for what it was, and i think as it stands it worked best when it was more grounded in reality. I did really enjoy the start, in the bathroom, and hiding the evidence in lucas apartment. I also enjoyed the detective parts, and i feel it's a shame there wasn't more of those.

    The supernatural, sub-matrix stuff in the latter half of the game was poorly rationalised, and detracted substantially from the gritty tone of the game. Whilst i have no problem suspending disbelief, for this setting it just felt tacked on, so there was an excuse for some 'looks good in the promos' action scenes. This is combined with the story really rushing itself to completion at the end. A game where the main selling point is story, shouldn't be cutting corners in this department.

    I'm also not at all fond of these sodding QTE's that are becoming so popular. FMV games are back it seems, and hey, it's all ok now because the footage is generated in Realtime 3D. This isn't a gameplay innovation, it's a substantial step backwards. I don't mind the way they are implimented in games like RE4, where it's more of a reflex reaction thing added to a real game mechanic, but to have entire action sections based around a crude, simon says style game just strikes me as lazy.

    Again an opportunity has been missed here. why not make the QTE bits decisions, so you can pick different directions to go in and it plays different footage based on that choice. Even that would be a step up from basically, the win/lose state setup they currently have.

    I don't think this game will sustain the level of praise it's currently getting, into the future. I do think that it's hinted at some of the possibilities of the future however.

    In terms of branching narrative, theres nothing here Deus ex didn't do first, both structurally and thematically.
    Last edited by Rebelli0n; 14-10-2005, 09:51.

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      Arg, still waiting for mine in the post. I WANT THE GAME AND I WANT IT NOW!

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        Originally posted by spagmasterswift
        I bailed on this too. Don't know if anybody else had a problem with the following but it just hacked me off so much that I had to walk away:


        You are in your office and the female cop is coming to talk to you. You get a little time to hide the slip of paper and pick up your copy of Hamlet (I think it was) before she walks in. I can do the analogue tedium to get the good answer selection no problem and get "great" when that dust mite appears but it always ends with me in the mental home.
        I'm also having the same damn problem. I do all the simon says things to perfection. I choose the correct answers, but because of my "bad mood" I end up in the

        mental home

        . And I have no idea what to do about it except for starting over some previous Lucas chapter and try to cheer him up a little so he survives the

        interrogation

        . Can anybody tell me if I'm doing something wrong?

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          You're not

          supposed to do the QTEs. They lessen his mental outlook and put him off. The game reverses its use of them during this particular section to fit the context of what's happening.

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            Originally posted by Concept
            You're not

            supposed to do the QTEs. They lessen his mental outlook and put him off. The game reverses its use of them during this particular section to fit the context of what's happening.
            Hey thanks man! Now that's one thing I would never have figured out. haha! Thanks a lot!

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              Glad I could help.

              Need to play this again at some point. Personally, I don't agree with the backlash to Farenheit.

              While it's undeniably flawed, I very much enjoyed it. At least the game tried to do something different, and carried it off in style for most of the experience.

              Certainly one of the most interesting videogames produced this year.

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                Originally posted by Concept
                Glad I could help.

                Need to play this again at some point. Personally, I don't agree with the backlash to Farenheit.

                While it's undeniably flawed, I very much enjoyed it. At least the game tried to do something different, and carried it off in style for most of the experience.

                Certainly one of the most interesting videogames produced this year.
                Well, I'm not totally slaying it and so far I'm quite enjoying the game, yeah. But it has it's flaws. I could do without the Simon says controls, or at least not as much. Also hammering the L and R triggers was fun in RE4, because it was done quite well (fighting
                was fantastic), but controlling how someone is breathing, that's not really fun. I do like the police investigation a lot. But with Lucas I'll know I have to do Simon says or L and R trigger bashing stuff (which is usually quite easy).
                But Fahrenheit is still fun. The story is nice, could've been better and I could've done without all the
                stuff. But it keeps me hooked. And I do want to know how it ends. It's an interesting game and I hope Quintic Dreams learned from their mistakes and make an even better game next.
                Personally I would like to see something like Without A Trace (a pretty interesting serious FBI show) mixed with Fahrenheit. The police investigation. A mystery to be solved.

                No super powers and other sci fi stuff

                Might be interesting....

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                  Sorry to go slightly OT. Have any of you guys with the US release "Indigo Prophecy" got an unchipped PAL XBox? If so, would you kindly try to boot it to test for region free-ness, please?

                  Many thanks. Just trying to sort my Xmas list out

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                    I just finished this yesterday. All in all, a fun game. I admire what the developers were trying to do with the game, and I respect what they accomplished. There are plenty of flaws, but hopefully QD will learn from them and make their next game even better. Definitely something different in this age of sequels and missed opportunities.

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                      Originally posted by gunrock
                      Sorry to go slightly OT. Have any of you guys with the US release "Indigo Prophecy" got an unchipped PAL XBox? If so, would you kindly try to boot it to test for region free-ness, please?

                      Many thanks. Just trying to sort my Xmas list out
                      AFAIK it's not region-free, but the PAL one's better anyway.
                      It's (very mildly) uncensored and they're both 60Hz.
                      Plus a better name.

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                        Originally posted by Magnakai
                        AFAIK it's not region-free, but the PAL one's better anyway.
                        It's (very mildly) uncensored and they're both 60Hz.
                        Plus a better name.
                        Defintetly. I'm a picky sod myself like that (not saying you are ).

                        Indigo Prophecy makes Farenheit sound like a first-person shooter or a turn-based RPG. I suppose it's to appeal to a wider audience in America.

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                          Thanks guys. PAL version it is then!

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                            I got this from ASDA for ?6 the other day. If it's as good as you guys say then, that's a damn fine price... I wouldn't know because it turns out it's not 360 compatible. Bugger.

                            Any idea whether it's going to get emulated?

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                              Originally posted by nips
                              I got this from ASDA for ?6 the other day. If it's as good as you guys say then, that's a damn fine price... I wouldn't know because it turns out it's not 360 compatible. Bugger.

                              Any idea whether it's going to get emulated?
                              Unfortunately not , as it is a good game it automatically gets stricken from the list of games to emulate.

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                                Finally decided to play through this - loved it!

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