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    Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
    Yeah but is there gonna be a PAL release cause ive got the original DMC3 and ive been playing it to death lately and i need to play as Vergil cause Dante is getting boring...
    yeah, what sux about the Special Edition, I must warn you, is that you have to restart any files u have w/ Dante, because your progress cant be switched over. However dont delete it or nething, cause a completed game save is needed to unlock vergil, and if you can do that right from the start, its pretty cool. Although losing your progess on DMC3 original might sound ****ty at the beginning, I think I put close to 60 hours on both characters on the SE, and its really cool being able to switch btw Dante and Vergil just by loading a diff slot

    Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
    Where did you get it import or PAL land?
    I'm in Canada, and it released pretty early here, I think it was January 23rd, so i got lucky and didnt have to order it or nething.

    Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
    yeah cool could you please? it would be cool to see how much ass YOU can kick Broly
    wow, thats some motivation right there, but believe me, I have a lot to learn as well. But Vergil is pretty cool, the best way to describe his fighting tactics is to picture yourself walking casually thru a room full of enemies, and by the time you get to the other side, everything is dead. Vids coming up
    Last edited by broly2012; 22-04-2006, 15:07.

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      Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
      Where did you get it import or PAL land?
      It's a US import. SCEE apparently won't allow budget re-releases with added content so there won't be a PAL version. VF evolution was full price here while it was a budget release in the US.

      There is a code now to unlock Vergil, all outfits and difficulty settings from the beginning without previous save data.

      Vergil does feel very different to Dante. He flows differently and you have to adjust to the switch from guns to the spirit swords. At the moment Im struggling a bit, but I haven't played alot so far or upgraded him.
      Last edited by Shoju; 22-04-2006, 16:08.

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        [Edit: this is prolly obvios, but Dark Slayer needs to be fully maxed out for Trick up and Trick Down]

        Alright, this is basically what I had typed before, except all the vids have been uploaded anew and reposted. The vids vary in length but are pretty much less than 90 secs, and they're all pretty small files, so 56k users wont have to deal with endless download times. Cheers guys, hope it helps.

        basic movement - Dark Slayer 'Air Trick' teleports you toward the locked on target
        1 on 1: http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...73JHITNP0L70MY
        in a group: http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...62C7NI3Z1ZWB6N
        or, if the lock-on is not used, then Vergil with trick to the closest target (sry the clip is short) http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...Z2H3Z2XXR5MDNL

        basic movement 2 - Dark Slayer 'Trick Up' functions the same as a second jump
        vid 2: http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...R30EIUK5U0X55V
        basic movement 3 - Dark Slayer 'Trick Down' this pulls Vergil away from the enemy, as well as down to the ground (if executed whilst airborn)

        vid 3: http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...72N5TGD9GRWKO9
        *also note that 'Air Trick' is executed instead of a second Trick Down, despite the fact I'm still pushing the back direction.
        Both trick up and trick down are similar in this regard and cannot be performed twice in a row without a slight recovery.

        advanced movement 1 - all 3 dashes can be used one after the other in any order to perform quick advance and retreat tactics - plz note, the 2nd dash 'air trick' (one where I appear and reappear in the same spot) would put me closer to the enemy in actual combat
        http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...52XOFDNS1X3MG0
        this is a great tactic to use when fighting cerebus
        http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...H219LRWLNO183V
        notice the distance covered witht the Jump, Trick Up, Air Trick Combo, and back again with Trick Down, great for getting out of harms way

        advanced movement2 - 'Air Trick' can also be used to dodge attacks even when right in front of your attacker
        Hell VanGuard: http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...K1OTR0YVLBHHXS
        here is one against a Lust
        http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...O2YH9WM7FVW5XY
        it can even be used like Royal Gaurd to dodge attacks in a group, as well as eplosions
        http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...42MF21I6A7KBGH

        advanced movement 3 - the left analog can also be used to aim in which direction you want to teleport, AS LONG AS there are multiple enemies on screen and the stick is pointed towards one of their positions, this is a great technique for crowd control
        sample vid: dodging a pair of lusts
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...R3VJR4E6G8CN2W

        Basic Combat 1: these are the full combos for each weapon
        vid 10: combos http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...U36WW2BP1Q0TIF

        Basic Combat 2: notice how after each full combo using Yamatto, Vergil sheethes it after the attack animations. If he is allowed an uninterupted amount of time after using one of these combos, (if the enemy is alone and dies b4 the last hit it will not work) to sheath Yamatto, you are awarded 1 full bubble of DT, and half a meter of style points
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...O0JI4XNX2YHL06
        this can also be use for Yamatto combo, and Upper Slash combo (Yamatto R1+Back Triangle Triangle)

        Advanced Combat 1 - By using 2 hits for the Yamatto and Beowful combos, and 4 hits for the Force Edge combo, Vergil can perform a simple, never ending combo which can be cancelled at any time
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...61D1Q023L828O1

        [this tactic is used in several vids below against DMD opponents]

        Advanced Combat 1 - Dark Slayer dashes can also be used to interupt attacks and move Vergil out of harms way, but some attacks cannot be cancelled, similar to Dante with RG. http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...U36WW2BP1Q0TIF The first attack there with Force Edge is normally a 2 hit attack, but Dark slayer can be used to cancel the 2nd. As you notice with Yamatto and Beowulf, not all moves can be canceled with Dark Slayer, experiment for yourself to be sure what can and what cant be cancelled.

        Advanced Combat 2 - learning how to use Vergil's attacks in conjunction with Dark Slayer is key.
        example 1 - Trick Up can be used to set up Aerial Attacks, or gain even higher altitudes after jumping for extra damage
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...A0L64JIVWO2MOH

        example 2 - some more advanced combos
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...20FIOW6Z4ON9J5

        using Trick Up, Vergil can endlessly use the Helmbreaker technique, heh, look familiar?
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...80DY3ERQYCUJ0S
        Example 4 - using everything together on DMD opponents
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...S2J51ITIYSSMQ8

        Advanced Combat 3 - Aerial Rave (pressing Tri in mid-air with Yamatto) is probably one of Vergil's best moves, and can be enemy step cancelled while airborn and does some serious damage.
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...13AG8CXIMT6A1F
        you can also allow Vergil to hit both strikes, knocking the opponent away, and follow up with either Helm breaker, or kIller bee

        Lunar Phase, killer bee, and possibly Helm Breaker (unconfirmed) can also be jump cancelled. Here is some Lunar Phase cancelling:
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...Q1HI3GJDGREGBG

        Advanced Combat 4 - Juggernaut Cut, perhaps Vergils strongest Attack, but the problem is taking the time to charge it up. But this can be avoided by using Yamatto's Rapid Slash (R1+Forward Triangle) and buffering Juggernaut cut simultaneusly. This can also be used to Round Trip for force Edge with a quick swap of Devil Arms
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...C0A32016PDH0JD
        Note the 2nd half of the vid, Round Trip provides another large window of opportunity for Buffering Juggernaut cut, making this an extremely useful technique.

        Advanced Combat 5 - at all times, Vergil can use his Summon swords, even in the middle of Devil Arm Combos
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...32KHJ8IZC28VSS

        THe spiral swords can also be used simultaneously, as well as both R1+Forward Square and R1+ Backward Square attacks. Using everything together, even DMD opponents cant survive against this onslaught.
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0...I3LPJJO9HZCK28
        Note the Style points, despite the fact I used Lunar Phase 3 times in such a short time
        Another example from the night club:
        http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...V3VE7UT1CMOFZU
        Last edited by broly2012; 22-04-2006, 17:01.

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          Originally posted by Shoju
          It's a US import. SCEE apparently won't allow budget re-releases with added content so there won't be a PAL version. VF evolution was full price here while it was a budget release in the US.

          There is a code now to unlock Vergil, all outfits and difficulty settings from the beginning without previous save data.

          Vergil does feel very different to Dante. He flows differently and you have to adjust to the switch from guns to the spirit swords. At the moment Im struggling a bit, but I haven't played alot so far or upgraded him.
          wat? there's a code now? meh, I think I already unlocked everything, but it'd be worth checking that out to see if there are any more costumes I can get. Vergil is a lot different, basically no technique, just raw power. Once you get a hang of the 3-tier weapon switching, and now how to get to the weapon you want, the combos can flow pretty smoothly, and virtually endlessly. Check out my guide, its not amazing, and I'm no pro, but there are a few tricks in there which I picked up which may be of help.

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            Originally posted by broly2012
            wat? there's a code now? meh, I think I already unlocked everything, but it'd be worth checking that out to see if there are any more costumes I can get. Vergil is a lot different, basically no technique, just raw power. Once you get a hang of the 3-tier weapon switching, and now how to get to the weapon you want, the combos can flow pretty smoothly, and virtually endlessly. Check out my guide, its not amazing, and I'm no pro, but there are a few tricks in there which I picked up which may be of help.
            yeah the code is L1+L2+R1+R2 and then either push le left stick up+left and the d-pad down+right or the other way around but idunno if it works cause i saw it on a cheat site

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              Is there an effective way to stun Agni and Rudra with RG? I have most of their moves down but I'm rarely finding moments to unleash my charges.

              EDIT: Nevermind, I'm owning them now
              Last edited by Combination; 22-04-2006, 18:28.

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                Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
                yeah the code is L1+L2+R1+R2 and then either push le left stick up+left and the d-pad down+right or the other way around but idunno if it works cause i saw it on a cheat site
                cool, ill check it out now

                Originally posted by Vic Vipr
                Is there an effective way to stun Agni and Rudra with RG? I have most of their moves down but I'm rarely finding moments to unleash my charges.

                EDIT: Nevermind, I'm owning them now
                a trick i learned from Venom is to Just Release their attacks, not only do you go thru them and get the bonus damage, as well as a new spot, but the release also stuns them

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                  Yeah, the trick was to release at the last few frames of their sword swings.

                  I'm loving this

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                    Originally posted by Vic Vipr
                    Yeah, the trick was to release at the last few frames of their sword swings.

                    I'm loving this
                    yeah still need to get better at that, had Agni and Rudras timings down pretty much b4 I switched to Turbo, that threw everything off, lol. Neway, was just fighting those guys on DMD w/ Vergil, and i tried so many diff things, and got raped everytime. But the last fight, I purely used Force Edge, and just tons of Air Trick dodges, and i destroyed them. Such a good method for those guys. And the Force Edge combo can even stop their swords

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                      DON'T USE THE CODE BROLY! it will completely ruin the **** out of the game

                      also how do you get pictures on this site? and isnt DMC2 crap?

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                        Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
                        DON'T USE THE CODE BROLY! it will completely ruin the **** out of the game

                        also how do you get pictures on this site? and isnt DMC2 crap?
                        to get pictures on the site, you can either attach them with your post using the "Additional Options". Or, as i would do it, you could up load a pic for free on PhotoBucket which will provide you with a URL to that picture. Then C&P the link here using image tags (put the URL inbetween the tags) - [img] [ /img] (without the space in the close tag)

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                          Originally posted by Vergil_Dante_Sparda
                          DON'T USE THE CODE BROLY! it will completely ruin the **** out of the game

                          also how do you get pictures on this site? and isnt DMC2 crap?
                          yeah, i found no such code so no worries. There is one for the original DMC3 but it doesnt work on the SE. As for pics, not too sure, but Kevvy's got it covered. And yes, I never played DMC1, but owned DMC2 for a while, and had nothing to compare it to at the time. But yeah, the game is no doubt craptacular.

                          Edit in: was kinda bored this evening, so put this vid together. Some Vergil rapeage at the Night Club. Enjoy
                          http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2...E0BRJDDTVHFDNE
                          Last edited by broly2012; 24-04-2006, 06:09.

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                            There is a new code for the SE version on gamefaqs codes section. It works I've used it to use Vergil from the beiginning with any difficulty and outfit.

                            Thanks for those vids, I can see whats possible with him now. What configuration do you use?

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                              Originally posted by Shoju
                              There is a new code for the SE version on gamefaqs codes section. It works I've used it to use Vergil from the beiginning with any difficulty and outfit.

                              Thanks for those vids, I can see whats possible with him now. What configuration do you use?
                              ahh so there is a code. Does it unlock all the costumes for Dante as well?
                              No worries about the vids, glad you enjoyed them, more to come as I progress and get better.

                              What do you mean by configuration? Controls? Options? I can tell you that turbo mode is always on, my controls are customized, with a slight variation between the two characters. If you mean character config, w/ vergil once he is maxed you dont need to config anything at the beginning of a mission, you just go into it. That what you meant?
                              Last edited by broly2012; 24-04-2006, 15:04.

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                                Originally posted by broly2012
                                ahh so there is a code. Does it unlock all the costumes for Dante as well?
                                No worries about the vids, glad you enjoyed them, more to come as I progress and get better.

                                What do you mean by configuration? Controls? Options? I can tell you that turbo mode is always on, my controls are customized, with a slight variation between the two characters. If you mean character config, w/ vergil once he is maxed you dont need to config anything at the beginning of a mission, you just go into it. That what you meant?
                                I haven't checked Dante but I think it works for him too.

                                Controls is what I mean. I haven't had the chance to attempt anything I've seen with Vergil yet but some of the things I've seen with Dante I really struggle to do. Like when trying some of the combos in the Hell Sloth vid, it was really tough moving my fingers around the pad, buffering things, holding buttons down etc. There must be a more ideal configuration for this.

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