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    Originally posted by Friction
    I NEED this item, I find the lockpicking fun, but it's very frustrating when I press the button with the pin at the top, and still my lockpick breaks and I have to start any. Whilst on the subject of that any tips for picking locks?

    Does getting a higher security skill really help?
    I think the higher security skill just means fewer pins drop when you break a pick. I've sussed the lock picking now, and manage hard ones without breaking a pick. I hit each pin up a few times and when it falls with the least friction, ie. really smoothly and quickly, the next time you push the pin up is always the one to click into place.

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      Originally posted by GordonJ

      Check the corpse of the guy you went to rescue, then I think it prompts you to speak to his wife, so head back to town
      Oh bollocks, I figured I'd just go find his wife but it seems I have to actually make it trigger that part of the quest...back there we go then...huge dangly donkey balls.

      Just did that dreamworld quest, easy but pretty damn cool!

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        Thanks for all the lock picking tips chaps!

        I guess I need to practice more!

        I suppose it doesn't really help taking on very hard locks with a security skill of about 15! I think it's probably best to work my way up and build my skill before jumping in with the hard locks!

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          Just became a journeyman of acrobatics. Combat feels like Zelda now, as I can do backflips and roll to the left and right.

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            I still feel I haven't quite got the hang of levelling up? Can anyone put it in lamens terms? To level a skill up you just use it a lot? Cos I've been jumping all over town and it's not doing much...

            How many skills do you need to level up to get a MAIN level up (ie sleep and level up) ?

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              Originally posted by Friction
              Gerry could you point me in the direction of this quest please! - Either by means of PM, or Spoiler quotes so as not to ruin it for anyone else

              I NEED this item, I find the lockpicking fun, but it's very frustrating when I press the button with the pin at the top, and still my lockpick breaks and I have to start any. Whilst on the subject of that any tips for picking locks?

              Does getting a higher security skill really help?

              You can get this item by doing the Nocturnal Shrine quest (near Leyawiin, the road on the right hand side) Just walk out of the north east gate following the path. Its just north of Blankenmarch. You should be able to do the rest as its an easy one.



              Hope that helps.

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                After 70 hours this game is finally starting to grind on me and it feels like a chore. 70 hours is a bloody long time though, i think i'll just give it a rest and rock on with GH for a few weeks and come back to it.

                Anyone else had the same problem?

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                  Originally posted by Jebus
                  I still feel I haven't quite got the hang of levelling up? Can anyone put it in lamens terms? To level a skill up you just use it a lot? Cos I've been jumping all over town and it's not doing much...

                  How many skills do you need to level up to get a MAIN level up (ie sleep and level up) ?
                  I think PeteJ said 5 major skills need to increase before you level up (about 30 pages back). What are your major skills? Mine include athletics, acrobatics, stealth, and something to do with archery, which I use all the time so they level up pretty quickly - like every 10 minutes. If acrobatics isn't a major skill it won't contribute.

                  Some question about lock picking
                  As for lock picking, you don't need this as a skill. A guide was posted about 70 pages back (to do with closing your eyes and listening for the double-chink), but I do the same as was posted a couple of pages back: watch the pattern on the bolts. Somebody will probably tell me the sequence is random, but I've been able to pick hard locks first go in about 10 seconds... though I admit to saving beforehand just in case. I don't know what the problem is with lock picks either - they're all over the place in bandit caves.


                  Now level 9 and 15 hours - I'm due to visit the Imperial City for the first time soon, though I may distract myself with side quests for a little while.

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                    Originally posted by Boggy
                    After 70 hours this game is finally starting to grind on me and it feels like a chore. 70 hours is a bloody long time though, i think i'll just give it a rest and rock on with GH for a few weeks and come back to it.

                    Anyone else had the same problem?
                    I had it at about 14/15 hours but then I found a quest that gave me renewed vigour in the game...back to being obsessed with it again.

                    Frankly if a game keeps my attention for 14/15 hours it got to be bloody good, the fact I'm at 20 hours and still wanna play it RIGHT NOW, is incredible.

                    70 hours, if I play it that much may well mean "Game of the Year" for me since it's been a long, long time since a game held my interest for so long...in fact not since Final Fantasy VII have I been so captivated.

                    At the end of the day, 70 hours I'd consider it a damn good buy so if you lose interest then, that's still an incredible feat on the game designers behalf.

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                      Maybe its just me, but I hear absolutely no difference in the sound between when your pushing the pins up too fast, or when you doing it at just the right speed.

                      All you have to do to pick locks is bounce the pins until the pin moves up at a slow speed, then try to lock it as soon as it hits the top of the lock. You can still lock the pins if you push them up quickly, but its a matter of having fast reactions, hence the slower moving pins are slightly easier to lock. It's all a matter of timing really.

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                        Originally posted by Nijo
                        I think PeteJ said 5 major skills need to increase before you level up (about 30 pages back). What are your major skills? Mine include athletics, acrobatics, stealth, and something to do with archery, which I use all the time so they level up pretty quickly - like every 10 minutes. If acrobatics isn't a major skill it won't contribute.
                        20 hours in an I can't remember/don't even know what my major skills are...after the footy today I may have to have a look! That might be why I'm not increasing...I figured sneaking/agilty must be one since I'm a theif!

                        But it's still worth levelling your acrobatics up isn't it, since you want to be a balanced character? Something I think I'm doing rather well at so far.

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                          Originally posted by Zanza
                          Maybe its just me, but I hear absolutely no difference in the sound between when your pushing the pins up too fast, or when you doing it at just the right speed.

                          All you have to do to pick locks is bounce the pins until the pin moves up at a slow speed, then try to lock it as soon as it hits the top of the lock. You can still lock the pins if you push them up quickly, but its a matter of having fast reactions, hence the slower moving pins are slightly easier to lock. It's all a matter of timing really.
                          I'm using the D-pad to push the pins up so (for me) it has nothing to do with what I'm doing to them. They either stick or not, with sticky pins tending to follow bouncy pins. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but it's working for me.

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                            Originally posted by Jebus
                            But it's still worth levelling your acrobatics up isn't it, since you want to be a balanced character? Something I think I'm doing rather well at so far.
                            Actually I'm aiming to have 100 agility and 30 strength.

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                              Originally posted by Nijo
                              I'm using the D-pad to push the pins up so (for me) it has nothing to do with what I'm doing to them. They either stick or not, with sticky pins tending to follow bouncy pins. I'm sure there's more to it than that, but it's working for me.
                              Ah I'm using the pc version, so it could be different I guess. I just lock the pins as they hit the top of the lock, works a charm. When I said bounce the pins, I basicaly meant keep hitting up until the pin moves at a slightly slower speed, which makes timing it to hit the top slightly easier.

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                                Originally posted by Zanza
                                Ah I'm using the pc version, so it could be different I guess. I just lock the pins as they hit the top of the lock, works a charm. When I said bounce the pins, I basicaly meant keep hitting up until the pin moves at a slightly slower speed, which makes timing it to hit the top slightly easier.
                                Yeah, thats the technique I mentioned a few pages back...didn't notice a difference in sound but if the pin is moving quickly, do it again and it'll move slowly for you I think!

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