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    Fable 3 - Xbox 360

    I thought I’d get this started considering we’ve been chatting away in the News Thread!

    So then, Fable 3…

    I’m a huge fan of the Fable franchise, I adored the first game and really enjoyed the sequel, despite it’s obvious flaws and lack of overall polish. It’s pretty common knowledge that 3 is set after the events of 2. The old Hero King or Queen is dead and the player takes control of the younger child, the Prince or Princess, while your brother, Logan, has taken to the throne. Logan is perceived as a tyrant, an unruly monarch and after a rather challenging moral dilemma, the Prince or Princess is forced to escape the constraints of the castle walls and lead a rebellion while realizing his / her potential as a Hero.

    That’s the basic premise at least, and Fable 3 does a great job at swiftly setting the scene while gracefully introducing the player to the world and it’s many gameplay mechanics. Unlike Fable 2, the player isn’t immediately allowed access to all abilities, such as purchasing properties, getting married etc, these are gradually unlocked by spending Guild Seals that open chests during a new area, known as the Road to Rule. This acts as a physical and metaphorical road that the Hero must traverse to finally become the ruler. Gates block the road and these are unlocked by simply following the story…

    It’s a nice idea that surprisingly fits well with the story and helps to add an extra layer of magic to Albion, which has lost an air of fantasy due to the industrialisation. I’ve found myself many times simply just chilling to the music while contently unlocking chests amongst the mystical ambience. It’s very peaceful.

    In regards to the new weapon and leveling up system, i thought i'd break this down a little because it can seem a little confusing!

    Weapon Leveling

    The Hero’s Level does not influence the weapon leveling, of course increased strength will increase a weapon's damage, but not the Level. A weapon’s level can only increase after unlocking the appropriate chest via the Road to Rule. When a Ranged, Melee or Magic chest is opened a He-Man style animation will trigger and consequently all weapons, both the Legendary and the Living weapons, will level up accordingly. So that means, after opening a Level 4 melee chest, all melee weapons, both Living and Legendary, will now be Level 4.

    Legendary Weapons

    Just like in Fable 2, there are Legendary Weapons that can be purchased, found or traded. Each Legendary Weapon has three Augments (upgrades), all of which offer the player benefits during gameplay, such as damage increase, morality increase, gaining money per hit or losing weight (very handy this one!)

    Unlike Fable 2, all three augments are by default set on a weapon and cannot be removed or re-assigned to an alternative weapon. The rewards for each augment are not immediately available to the player; the augments must be each earned by completing an objective. Here’s an example:

    * Weapon: The Splade
    * Augment : Purge

    * Objective: Kill 50 nobles
    * Reward: Damage Boost

    To earn the reward the Legendary Weapon must be equipped. Once equipped, every time a noble is killed the conditional value will increase. When all 50 nobles are killed the value will reach 100% and you'll see the weapon physically upgrade (again, He-Man style).

    Once the condition is 100%, each time the weapon is equipped and used the player will receive the benefits from the achieved reward, in this case the Hero will cause greater damage to enemies. It's a great feature that really adds an extra layer of depth and replayability. I know it's going to take me hours and hours to fully upgrade all 50 Legendary Weapons!

    It's also worth noting that each Legendary Weapon starts at a base mesh (this is the default weapon design) yet the weapon will physically change once Augments are achieved. For example: Augment 2 will often change the particle effects while Augment 3 increases the weapon's size. It's pretty cool.

    Living Weapons

    These are the Hero Weapons, the default weapons and they are very different to the Legendary Weapons because they do not have Augments. The biggest difference is that rather than calculating the statistics of a singular weapon, the Living Weapons are instead affected by the actions of the Hero. For example, if you kill lots of Balverines, kicks chickens, have sex with lots of women or donate gold to beggars etc etc each action will help morph the Living Weapons. Keep in mind though that the weapon doesn't morph on the fly, that takes place when the Melee or Ranged Level chest is unlocked via the Road to Rule. Hope that makes sense!

    [/Weapons End]

    The game is far from perfect, far too much depth has been removed, it's far too easy and the combat system is mind-numbingly dull, not to mention the lack of overall polish and it being as buggy as hell (grrrr!!)... but that is easily forgiven when you have one of those cheeky Gnomes throw abuse at the Hero's dog. It's all about charm and character, the art and atmosphere in Fable, for me at leasy. It's why I love the franchise... and, although flawed, those elements are firmly in place here...

    Better than 1? Not even close. Better than 2? Sometimes, but not always....
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    Plant.


    That's a joke, by the way!

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      :-)


      Git! ;-)

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        #4
        I'm surprised by that, most reviews seem to suggest it's a crap hobbled version of Fable 2, which was pretty crap and hobbled to begin with.

        Perhaps I'll take a look after all.

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          #5
          ive been playing this for the last week thanks to John Lewis' lack of release date knowledge, and can only echo Adam's comments on the game.

          I have to say im absolutely loving this game, and anyone fearing a change of palette etc need not worry as the scenery has been as stunning and beautiful as ever.

          it doesn't matter if you didn't play the last game as there are only general references to past events and people by NPCs, - you wont be disadvantaged but its a nice touch if you did play fable 2.

          its a funny game too - one early quest in particular relating to a dead writer had me laughing my head off - it was very python in humour and utterly ludicrous. the gnomes which hurl abuse at you are genius
          A number of big name comedians have also lent voices to it - Simon Pegg, jason manford, stephen fry, jonathon ross and most notably John Cleese who plays the butler in what has replaced the menu system from earlier games - it works well and reminded me of Assassins creed 2's villa, i.e armoury room, weapon room, clothing room etc etc. it works well and does make it "accessible" and allows you to see your bizarre clothing creations on the fly.


          the one and only downside for me is the lack of expression wheel this time. I have unlocked lots of expressions but it doesnt allow me willingly select which one - it merely presents me with 2 or 3 possible interactions e.g dance or belch. once i choose one, the next interaction offered is different e.g patticake or belch. i can only select one of the presented options, but cant choose one from all those i have unlocked. Im not explaining it well, but i miss the freedom of last time. Although it makes the interactions more personal rather than crowd pleasing spectacles of last time.

          Furthering this is the "hand holding" mechanic which underpins a lot of quests. its quite odd when you have to guide a scared trader through a forest by holding his hand! it kind of adds to the campness of it all - its the scope for daftness I like about the game, from having a child called Egg who I can point and laugh at to swaggering into a town square and farting on a town crier's head for 10 seconds.

          The writing / dialogue /script (and even intro video) is outstanding and puts 99% of games to shame, and you can forgive the odd rough edge and heavy use of motion blur to get a games as genuinely playful as this one.

          It may not be the most polished of games, or even an anywhere remotely deep RPG, but it doesn't pretend to be and it ticks all my boxes and very quickly got its hooks in me. theres plenty of scope to be as good, evil or daft as you like too. thats always been the draw for me, the great immersive storyline and action but also the sheer eccentric britishness of it all.

          heck, if you've read my headlines comments you will know I went out and bought another xbox (as mine RROD on thursday) just so I could continue playing thats how good I think it is - but then its just 100% tapped into my humour and my particular tastes.
          Last edited by laruso; 30-10-2010, 11:48.

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            #6
            Sounds brilliant chaps, thanks for the impressions! I always knew it would be though!

            I've had the game since Thursday and have yet to start play (I know, I know!) , mainly because I'm been finishing off other games!

            Anyhow, quick question! I'm really tempted to have a female hero this time around (as I've played the first two as a male), but was wondering can you level up a female hero alright now without her turning into an 'it' The second game wasn't great at letter you power up a female character at all!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Friction View Post
              I'm really tempted to have a female hero this time around (as I've played the first two as a male), but was wondering can you level up a female hero alright now without her turning into an 'it' The second game wasn't great at letter you power up a female character at all!
              haha! I really dont know im afraid, Ive gone for a male hero again. I'm guessing it really depends on your actions as to whether she turns out looking like Anne Widdicombe or Megan fox.

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                #8
                To those of you that already has the game: How is the movement of your character? Is it precise like most modern action games, or still slippery like it was in Fable 2? This little thing might decide whether I get this game or not.

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                  Originally posted by Friction View Post
                  Sounds brilliant chaps, thanks for the impressions! I always knew it would be though!

                  I've had the game since Thursday and have yet to start play (I know, I know!) , mainly because I'm been finishing off other games!

                  Anyhow, quick question! I'm really tempted to have a female hero this time around (as I've played the first two as a male), but was wondering can you level up a female hero alright now without her turning into an 'it' The second game wasn't great at letter you power up a female character at all!
                  The female character is hot... Honestly, forget the worries about her looking like a butchy monster, she can look very sexy indeed in this one. Having her run around in just her pants, covered with tattoos is very pleasing on the eyes... God that makes me sound like a perv.

                  As for the Hero's movements, thankfully that 'floaty' movement is gone and the Hero moves very tightly indeed. His / her feet actually 'connect' with the ground this time. The run and the walk animations still aren't quite up to scratch, but the actual feel is vastly improved.

                  Oh, and for all Legend of Zelda fans... It is possible to make the Male Hero look like Link from Zelda. Dying that pointy PJ hat green makes me feel like I'm in Hyrule sometimes, hehe (especially after re-naming my Sword to The Master Sword)
                  Last edited by Adam Stone; 30-10-2010, 14:48.
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                    #10
                    Adam, you mentioned chilling to the music - as good as Fable 2 then?

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                      #11
                      Thanks for the info guys!

                      Laruso - it's not so much about the actions defining her, it's more a worry with Fable 2, the moment you put some strength levels on your character she turned into a monsterous Ogre - Bigger than Hammer

                      Adam - Cheers for that. I've seen the early pics and agree, looks like a fox, but as above, worried about if I start boosting her strength she'll monster out on me and look way too butch!

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                        #12
                        Adam, you mentioned chilling to the music - as good as Fable 2 then?
                        Certainly. The music is, as usual, beautiful. Russel did a great job, and pleasingly there's even a few tracks from 1 and 2 in this one, slightly modified of course.

                        My personal favourite is the hauntingly depressing violin track in Dweller Camp, and the soothing ambiance while in the Sanctuary. Lovely stuff - in my opinion of course.

                        Friction, build her up as much as you wish mate, she won't start to turn all butch on you (not unnaturally so, anyhow). She even looks rather attractive when she's fully fat, just with a very big bum is all
                        Last edited by Adam Stone; 30-10-2010, 14:55.
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                          #13
                          Thanks for that Adam!

                          Fantastic news I can play with a woman then! That said I will miss being a male - as I used to love covering myself in tattoo's and enjoying the finest big beards in all of Albion!

                          Leads to another question - can you have more than one save - as in more than one Hero? Sure Fable 2 let you do that, but I confess I can't remember!

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                            #14
                            You can yes, though it isn't obvious at first. To create and select other Hero save files (max of 4) - first you have to go into the Options and select New Game. After this, to view and change Hero Saves you simply need to select Load, and this will take you to another room in the Sanctuary, displaying your Hero saves on mannequins. All of this happens in-game, unlike Fable 2 where you could select your save files after booting up the game via the main menu.

                            It's definitely worth playing as both the Male and the Female. I'm a male at the mo but will go through again as a Female for sure. The female's hair assets aren't quite as cool as the male's, but her awesome character model and her great voice acting more than makes up for that.

                            Another thing to keep in mind, is that Purity and corruption (Primal) now affect the hero's visual form too, it's not just morality this time. So expect to see your hero look a wee bit different if you eat or drink lots, or set high rent! Scaring is better then ever, it's tempting to get knocked down on purpose just to have an awesome looking scar across the chest!
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                              #15
                              Any idea why they got rid of the freedom with emotes you could do with random characters? It only allows you to pick two now, which means when I beltch in someone's face it feels like I'm just picking between good or evil rather than having that sense of just dicking about from Fable2. There doesn't seem to be a way of failing the emotes now either.

                              I'm really early on still, just bought my first set of clothes (an hour in maybe), but already it feels streamlined from Fable 2 (which in itself was very streamlined). I picked up a ring at some point but I have no way of finding out what it is or what is does!

                              So far it feels like a cutdown version of Fable2.

                              That said the game world is still classic Fable. The voice acting and script is up there with the best of them and it has made me chuckle a few times already. They've made the colours too dull but the atmosphere is still great.

                              I shall continue of course, but so far everything apart from the script and acting seems like a step backwards.

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