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    Originally posted by Sketcz View Post
    Not sure I want to risk wasting humanity (things are so damn rare) on summoning when I might not make it...
    Humanity can be purchased for 5000 souls from the female vendor found when taking the shortcut from Undead Burge to the Depths.

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      She only has that many per playthrough though. The Duke's Archives are an excellent place to farm humanity but he still needs to reach them.

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        Here's my stats:

        Lvl 55

        Vit 16
        Att 12
        End 26
        Str 24
        Dex 20
        Res 10
        Int 16
        Fai 12

        Am going to give it another go, after grinding for imrpoved armour. Right now I have Havel's Rock Armour, which seems to be the best. Will check what the Giant's looks like.

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          Originally posted by Sketcz View Post
          Thanks for the advice. Sadly my spell power is weak - I've not bothered bumping it up at all, because without an MP bar and limited casts, what is the point really?

          I think I'll switch back to the BKS and maybe grind for strength. I've got Gavel's ring, which has boosted my capacity, hence the heavy armour. I've heard the Giant's Armour sold by the smith is really good once upgraded?

          Not sure I want to risk wasting humanity (things are so damn rare) on summoning when I might not make it...
          You dont actually need to summon anyone (and lets face it, summoning is cheating anyway).

          Equip a Spear and shield, the easiest way is to kill Ornstien first becuase Smough is very easy on his own as you can just use a broken pillar to keep his distance from you.

          Stay locked onto Ornstien at all times and a simply take your time, attacking whenever theres an opening, it could take a while to kill him but if you keep your distance from them both and just attack when there is an opening you should find the fight alot easier than it first appears.

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            summoning is not cheating thats a stupid attitude to take. the bosses get an hp boost to compensate for extra players. in the case of the four kings it even makes it harder

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              Did it in the end. Emptied out all my Soldier/etc souls to help grind a few levels of strength. Ornstein went down in 6 hits. Then spammed Smough with arrows while he was stuck on a pillar. Had a freak out moment when on his final sliver of health he dislodged and came for me, and on instinct I clicked L1 for my shield, except it put me in first person for the bow. Managed to get out of it and, after some Benny Hill style running away, popped the final arrow in him.

              Got the Lordvessel, returned to Firelink Shrine, and now I have no idea where to go or what to do. I really don't like this overworld set-up.

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                Originally posted by Sketcz View Post
                Did it in the end. Emptied out all my Soldier/etc souls to help grind a few levels of strength. Ornstein went down in 6 hits. Then spammed Smough with arrows while he was stuck on a pillar. Had a freak out moment when on his final sliver of health he dislodged and came for me, and on instinct I clicked L1 for my shield, except it put me in first person for the bow. Managed to get out of it and, after some Benny Hill style running away, popped the final arrow in him.

                Got the Lordvessel, returned to Firelink Shrine, and now I have no idea where to go or what to do. I really don't like this overworld set-up.
                Heh, that's actually the only part of the game that really tells you exactly what to do next.

                But basically you just need to go to all the areas you haven't been in any order you like now to obtain the four boss souls you need to open the door to the final boss. I would recommend the dukes archives in Anor Londo first.
                Last edited by rmoxon; 18-02-2012, 07:50.

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                  Originally posted by yvrmikiw View Post
                  summoning is not cheating thats a stupid attitude to take. the bosses get an hp boost to compensate for extra players. in the case of the four kings it even makes it harder
                  How is it a stupid attitude to take? If you summon npc's for certain bosses you can basically just stand back and watch for the majority of the fight. Personally I call that cheating.

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                    Surely if it was cheating it would require a special code or poke? It's part of the game, how could it possibly be considered cheating? It's like saying pressing the turbo button is Chase H.Q. is cheating as it makes your car go faster.
                    Kept you waiting, huh?

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                      I'd call it cheap as opposed to cheating but who cares what anybody labels it as. People can play their games however they choose.

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                        Well, I guess you COULD stand back and let someone else kill them... But I doubt that's what most people do. 9/10 people I summon are sh*t and I just use them as a distraction while I whittle away some health, and they're dead in about 30 seconds if that. The only boss I really used summons for was Ornstein and Smough and there was no way I was doing that by myself being a melee class. It took me 3 goes with summoning 2 people. I hated that boss fight. Four Kings I did myself though. I'm coming up to Ornstein and Smough on NG+ hopefully being a much higher level will even the odds a bit even if they are quite a bit more powerful...

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                          Got off to a bad start with this a few months back. Demon's Souls was the best game I'd played in years, and it took over my life for months, so I expected to instantly gel with Dark Souls. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood for it at the time and after getting repeatedly butchered by the Taurus Demon (a relatively simple boss) I tuned out. But now I am in the mood for it and I started it again at the weekend. Taurus Demon done in 2 goes and the game is opening up beautifully. I love how many really dangerous foes are just lurking about. It's awesome.

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                            Originally posted by Atticus View Post
                            Got off to a bad start with this a few months back. Demon's Souls was the best game I'd played in years, and it took over my life for months, so I expected to instantly gel with Dark Souls. Maybe I wasn't in the right mood for it at the time and after getting repeatedly butchered by the Taurus Demon (a relatively simple boss) I tuned out. But now I am in the mood for it and I started it again at the weekend. Taurus Demon done in 2 goes and the game is opening up beautifully. I love how many really dangerous foes are just lurking about. It's awesome.
                            YAY!!

                            I wish I could erase my memory of the game and play it again!

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                              I stopped playing the game due to skyrim and a few others but why.... This game is awesomeness.

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                                ^^^ This! A new PC is why I stopped. until then it was shaping up to be at least as good as Demon's Souls. I must return but the possibility of a PC version is stopping me.

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