Prog Scan ::wub::

[hankwangford]

Nothing to see here...

[hankwangford]

Right, I'm thinking of getting one of those Toshiba's. Is it really worth going from my Sony Wega 32" to this? I'm a total graphics whore and Progressive Scan sounds the nuts but is it worth spending the extra cash?

Absolutely. Tosh TVs -> everything else atm, tbh (Plasmas and monitors are a different matter entirely however, Hitachi do a MEAN plasma that I've lost the make of).

[Commander Marklar]

"creaming in your pants"

I haven't met anyone who hasn't creamed their pants when viewing the difference between straight RGB->Progressive with Line of Contact. It's like looking at a different game, the difference in clarity and resolution is astounding.

If a game supports it properly, you'll see a massive jump otherwise you're just looking at RGB (effectively).

[EvilBoris]

I always worry that it just looks jaggier

[mr_sockochris]

As much as i want Pro Scan, i'm not spending out on a new TV just yes as HDTV sets are just around the corner now. Plus i think that next gen is when we'll see the real benifit of Pro Scan not so much now when alot of games don't even have 16:9 let alone Pro Scan, so i'm not splashing out just yet.

[ThoseOfTheUnlight]

Hitachi do a MEAN plasma that I've lost the make of).

Which actually doesnt do progressive scan...

[hankwangford]

Which actually doesnt do progressive scan...

Oops...

[Pij]

which Hitachi doesnt do Pro Scan, the Alis panel they use just upscales everything to 1024x1024 (or some res like that) which i find gives a nicer pic or did compared to others ive tried.

Admitidly i havnt tried a Panny due to it not being on offer where i had to get my panel from. But i will admit that Pro scan on some other Plasma's is nicer than on Alis panels.

[anephric]

Aye, i've got the 36" version. Well, of the Picture Frame 2 (That's PF3 I do believe)

anephric - I'm really suprised you aren't notiving that much difference. Have you adjusted your CRTs settings for the best viewing, or ket the default? If not, i'll give you mine (Got them off AV forum)

I'm noticing a huge difference on the Xbox and DVD player through Progressive Scan. It must be a little to do with your TV. As I've got the exact same one as you!

I've fiddled in the service menu and I know exactly what the Tosh is capable of...

I'm preaching to the perverted here so... Prog-scan is not the be-all-and-end-all of PQ: I quite like a 100hz pic (which you don't get in PS) and Pal prog-scan is just horrible (flickery 50hz hell)...

On a CRT at least: I can appreciate peeps espousing their luv of Plasmas and higher Xbox res etc.

I don't own Line of Contact (I'm not touching Live, sorry) but I've got Tekki and it looks better in PS... not a quantum leap. I've had to really get my pc fanboy m8 to look closely for him to notice any difference.

[Pij]

I agree 480P is over rated, its nice but its no shocking difference.

[Leon Retro]

Does anyone know if the next-gen Pal XB and PS3 will support ProgScan?

One other thing, is Pal Prog any different to Ntsc Prog ???

I have a JVC top range t.v that does Ntsc&Pal Prog through the component of course.

I have never tested prog yet, I have a DVD player that supports it.

Am I missing out???

[mid]

One other thing, is Pal Prog any different to Ntsc Prog ???

Yes.

As far as SD goes, PAL prog scan is 576p at 50Hz, while NTSC prog scan is 480p at 60Hz. HD modes on both are the same res, I believe, but still 50Hz or 60Hz.

Certainly, Sky's eventual HD service will still be at 50Hz, so I'm not interested...

[Lyris]

That makes me a little ticked off. I'm fortunate that my new TV accepts all the modes - but they could have ended this incompatibility for once and for all by just using the already established system.

[Londonner]

Glad you're enjoying the lead mate, Sarkster!

I'm not that fussed about Progressive Scan via Component (e.g. PAL PS2 running Prog Scan via Component); it's better than RGB, but not a huge difference.

However, Progressive Scan via VGA really is utterly mind-blowing (e.g. NTSC Gamecube running Prog Scan via VGA on a CRT PC monitor)! I have no idea whether there is a technical difference between Prog Scan Component vs VGA ... or whether there's a difference between a CRT PC monitor vs TV ... or whether it's mind tricks ... but there is a huge difference in perceived quality.

[ThoseOfTheUnlight]

Glad you're enjoying the lead mate, Sarkster!

I'm not that fussed about Progressive Scan via Component (e.g. PAL PS2 running Prog Scan via Component); it's better than RGB, but not a huge difference.

However, Progressive Scan via VGA really is utterly mind-blowing (e.g. NTSC Gamecube running Prog Scan via VGA on a CRT PC monitor)! I have no idea whether there is a technical difference between Prog Scan Component vs VGA ... or whether there's a difference between a CRT PC monitor vs TV ... or whether it's mind tricks ... but there is a huge difference in perceived quality.

There is NO difference between a progressive scan connection, whether it be via VGA or RCA inputs.... Your PC monitor will obviously be capable of higher resolutions than your average TV, so therefore it looks better.

PS2 Progressive Scan isnt all that impressive anyway compared to RGB...