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    VF4 Evo crouch dash buffer theory

    You'll notice that on VF you can perform charged moves which have to be performed from full crouch position. Such as 2(hold) 46P for Akira's double palm.

    This only the basics, in VF you have the freedom to totally change input commands to activate attacks. The fastest way you can activate this move is by buffering it into a crouching dash/waverun which is in turn buffered into another attack.

    Akira's double palm:
    So you know it's 2(hold) 46P:
    2(hold) (Akira crouches) 46P(performed while in crouch position, he lunges forward and pushes the opponent with both hands)

    Lets speed it up:
    2+P (Akira does a crouching low punch)
    This has far less frames (delay) than simply pushing down to crouch.
    46P (while punch is being thrown) - cancels even more frames off the attack.

    So as you have seen so far the move must be performed from a full crouch position. Right? WRONG!

    You dont actually have to be in the crouch position! you just have to make the system think you are. THE fastest way to get into the crouch is a crouching dash, this command is simply 11 or 33.

    Let speed it up even MORE!:
    3346P simple as that - Akira wont even move before the double palm is performed. How about pressure play, chase an opponent with 333333333333333 then 46P when his guard is down.

    Buffering the crouch dash:
    Throw a standing P and cancel with G. (G resets the character) For example if you tap PP during a juggle he will punch with one arm then the other. If you add G in between he will repeat the 1st punch only (less frames = more juggle)
    As soon as the animation starts: 3346P
    Akira will perform the double palm off a STANDING punch - this looks like it shouldnt work, that it's against the game system - but it isnt. Thats how sick VF is.

    Once you can get the hang of getting the double palm buffered into standing attacks you can get to grips with using it after grabs. The easiest one is 1P+G 1164P (throw behind, double palm in the back) the damage is high and it looks ILL! Practice getting this move into as many throws as you can.

    Using it in juggles in just the same:
    Counterhit: 33P P G P G 3346P (uppercut tap, cancel, tap, cancel, double palm)
    This is just a simple example, but the possibilities are endless.

    Another one to think about is 2(hold) 6P+K - this is a shoulderbarge attack which knock opponents up for juggles. It can be used EXACTLY the same as the double palm but there's another wicked use for it. If the opponent is pressuring you: 11 to back out quickly, 6P+K to launch them (counterhit usually ) - then juggle as you like.

    Using both techs together can be as follows:
    41P+G (controls now reverse) 114P+K (barge) P G P G (punch cancels) 1164P (doublepalm)

    Once you get the hang of buffering the crouch dash you get used to using it all the time. It makes Akira so much more mobile as you will be 11 33 11 33 etc back and forth totally screwing with manz head and always ready with charged attacks like the double palm and shoulder barge.

    This tech works for every character who has moves performed from crouch - characters like Goh, Wolf, Kage can make disgusting use of it!

    #2
    Nice work. I can't get over just how ****ing excellent this game is man. Move properties completely change if it's a counter, the different inashi and sabaki, ukemi/okizeme options, staggers, crumbles... ****, it's too much for me. It's ridiculous how much i've improved just through quest mode.

    Just want to add that Goh's shoulder barge (which staggers) can be done with 236+P+K instead of from a crouch. So like with Akira, you can do 336+P+K and it will come out! Then follow up with 66+P+G or whatever :P

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      #3
      'Scuse me for being thick, but when you quote numbers eg 3+P, are they set out like on a phone?

      EDIT - not to worry - just found the info on the 2D fighters thread

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        #4
        Numpad.

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          #5
          Yeah but what about doing a Sonic Boom?

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            #6
            this may be off topic but is VF evo coming out on xbox? if so when, thanx in advance.

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              #7

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                #8
                **** nice explanation saur looks like youre starting to get into the different elements of play, crouch dashing ,yomi levels etc, should make for some good matches on sat
                this may be off topic but is VF evo coming out on xbox? if so when, thanx in advance.

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                Not at the moment but you never know with sega, their main purpose was to get this game out to as many people as possible therefore the smart choice would be the ps2 making better financial sense for them.

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                  #9
                  saurian/Optimus,

                  Is it possible for u guys to record ur fights and post them online so others can see what u can do?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oracle
                    saurian/Optimus,

                    Is it possible for u guys to record ur fights and post them online so others can see what u can do?
                    I can record them but I have no idea how to compress the files and have no webspace. Trojan X has kindly offered to help me get some videos hosted - I have some very good Psyvariar, Smash DX and VF4 Evo vids ready to go + the matches this weekend (which will be SAVAGE!)

                    That slut Allan has been challenging Chibita! - and he had to rub it in further by PMing me about it!

                    WHORE! ft:

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Saurian
                      Originally posted by oracle
                      saurian/Optimus,

                      Is it possible for u guys to record ur fights and post them online so others can see what u can do?
                      I can record them but I have no idea how to compress the files and have no webspace. Trojan X has kindly offered to help me get some videos hosted - I have some very good Psyvariar, Smash DX and VF4 Evo vids ready to go + the matches this weekend (which will be SAVAGE!)
                      I got some webspace Ill see what I can sort out...

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                        #12
                        That slut Allan has been challenging Chibita! - and he had to rub it in further by PMing me about it!
                        Lucky Son of a bitch !man I'd pay to have a few sessions with that dude, bet he's getting his behind whipped!

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                          #13
                          That aint the half of it - He knows the "Dancing Rei" geezer too!

                          *breaks down*

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by optimusomega
                            That slut Allan has been challenging Chibita! - and he had to rub it in further by PMing me about it!
                            Lucky Son of a bitch !man I'd pay to have a few sessions with that dude, bet he's getting his behind whipped!
                            I got totally dicked on

                            I also played Muki (Akira) in one match (one of the champions and the Sicko with perhaps the best Akira in Japan) who owned me completely as well (although I got a round off him).

                            What I just told Saur by PM-

                            Down Shinjuku Sportsland (without doubt the sickest arcade in Tokyo and there Japan), there are the best...

                            Evo players

                            Cali 2 players

                            3rd Strike players

                            Zero 3 players

                            GGXX players

                            V On players

                            I must add that the arcade in full of trophies that they`ve won in ****loads of tournaments and every Friday (as well as on other nights often) most of Tokyo`s best arcade players converge down there for utter sickness. The Evo floor is FULL of all those people you see on the various net vids and the green book DVD. It really is a whos who of the VF world- and is too much for little me to take (I get owned badly in that arcade)

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tokuda
                              Originally posted by optimusomega
                              That slut Allan has been challenging Chibita! - and he had to rub it in further by PMing me about it!
                              Lucky Son of a bitch !man I'd pay to have a few sessions with that dude, bet he's getting his behind whipped!
                              I got totally dicked on

                              I also played Muki (Akira) in one match (one of the champions and the Sicko with perhaps the best Akira in Japan) who owned me completely as well (although I got a round off him).

                              UK we need VF net...

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