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    #16
    Bit OT, but John Lewis give you a free 5 year guarantee on all electrical items also, they'll be bit more expensive (though quite often price match if you ask), it's worth it for the peace of mind

    Seeing TV's set up poorly also get's my goat, Argos, Woolworths, Comet, everywhere does it.

    /back to CEX, can't believe the're still going in this day and age tbh.

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      #17
      Originally posted by DavidHolliss

      /back to CEX, can't believe the're still going in this day and age tbh.
      I popped into their London branches in the spring, for the first time in six years. Couldn't believe the change. What used to be a place where you could pick up game and watches, zelda NES games, Philips Videopacs and software, boxed spectrum computers and the like had become what looked like a crappy second-hand DVD shop with a few battered gameboy boxes and a R.O.B. (not for sale).

      Agree completely - they should put themselves out of their misery.

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        #18
        I've no idea why everyone (apart from gamers) are buying HD LCD sets. Virtually no one (that I know at least) has skyHD (or cares) but a fair few people including my in-laws have got new TVs which look significantly worse than their old ones now that they are putting skySD through them.... They must be thinking they've been mugged.

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          #19
          nobody aside from anal tv tech junkies gives a toss what cable is used to connect a PS3.

          you honestly think improving the picture quality a bit is going to persuade people to get a PS3?

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            #20
            Too many people just buy it for big screen and take up less room, but they don't have an eye for quality.

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              #21
              It's true, my Mum saw Sky (SD not HD) plugged into my cheapy 26" JVC LCD that I used to have as she wanted to see what the picture on an LCD screen looked like. It looked like crap to me, nowhere near as good as on a CRT, but she thought it looked great! I don't think the average casual consumer actually looks that hard at what they're seeing.

              The best thing was though when I was playing the intro movie from 99 Nights to show off something in HD, and my brother saw it and said "It looks really sharp and all, but those people don't look quite real!"

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                #22
                i'm not an anal tech junkie but i know my HD. My friend who couldn't care less about HD noticed how bad the console looked when shown through composite. The quality isn't improved just a a bit, it's very considerable and i don't know of anyone that can't tell the difference.

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                  #23
                  Thats why its ridiculous for most people to be buying a PS3 this early, hardly anyone in the UK knows about HD or what its capable off and the amount of PS3's that are going to be sitting under a crappy tele connected via composite is going to make the whole HD era a joke.

                  I gave a friend a copy of Lost Season 3 and because it was shown on ABC HD channel in america he sat their watching it his crappy 14 inch crt and actually thought he was watching a HD picture.

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                    #24
                    ^^ It's peoples ignorance that will see HD flourish - Doesn't matter if they get it or not they're told they need it so they buy, buy, buy like sheep !

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by IanE
                      i'm not an anal tech junkie but i know my HD. My friend who couldn't care less about HD noticed how bad the console looked when shown through composite. The quality isn't improved just a a bit, it's very considerable and i don't know of anyone that can't tell the difference.
                      sorry, it's just we've been here before and heard this all before.

                      i recall all the dreamcast obsessives foaming at the mouth because GAME refused to have their DC demo pods connected to monitors via the VGA cable. the techies screamed about the inferior picture quality and how sales would suffer, while the rest of the world looked on a squinted wondering what the fuss was about.

                      bottom line...nobody cares apart from a few people who know and obsess about it. same with audiophiles......personally, i can enjoy an mp3 through a junky set of ?30 speakers as much as a ?3000 pair. i just don;t care enough to notice the difference.

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                        #26
                        Most people wouldn't know HD if it woke them in the middle of the night and slapped it's knob in their face.

                        Every TV shop I walk by has massive HD READY! standees next to some LCD monster playing some documentary in mushy composite. It makes me want to ram-raid the shop at night so I can hook their stuff up right.

                        I agree with Maximum on sound though - I usually have my stuff so loud that it's totally impossible to define any type of standard. I was going to spend around ?1500 on a pair of stereo speakers and a sub last year but there really is no point for my needs.
                        Last edited by dataDave; 21-11-2006, 12:18.

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                          #27
                          PS-3 in the Harrow cex is hooked up properly but to some cheap chinglish TV.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by DavidFallows
                            Most people wouldn't know HD if it woke them in the middle of the night and slapped it's knob in their face.
                            I work in postproduction with HD equipment and I completely agree. The level of ignorance surrounding it even amongst professional users is astounding.

                            Most people still don't know how to set up a SD 16:9 display anyway. Pubs and bars still show sport in the wrong aspect ratio on their widescreen TVs.

                            I'd swear that to most people in the country widescreen means "squashed picture" and HD means "bigger."

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Widegoat
                              I work in postproduction with HD equipment and I completely agree. The level of ignorance surrounding it even amongst professional users is astounding.

                              Most people still don't know how to set up a SD 16:9 display anyway. Pubs and bars still show sport in the wrong aspect ratio on their widescreen TVs.

                              I'd swear that to most people in the country widescreen means "squashed picture" and HD means "bigger."
                              The pub I worked in was like that and we were a sports pub! 1 minute with remotes and I had everything corrected so you could actually see the scores! I dont want to think how long it had been like that!

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                                #30
                                It is like that all over the country - the mass market doesn't understand 16:9, widescreen, HD, Scart, Component, HDMI. Composite is the king to mass market.

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