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    Originally posted by On The Edge of Insanity View Post
    Japan's still getting it on time, so it must just be the translation thats causing delays to US and EU.
    Does it not quite often happen that Sony dump this stuff into Japan early without online, as it's not taken up that much there ?

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      Originally posted by Simmy View Post
      Does it not quite often happen that Sony dump this stuff into Japan early without online, as it's not taken up that much there ?
      It happened with either Resistance or MotorStorm at launch, can't remember which one though.

      I don't think it's happened with any other games though?

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        F1:CE didn't have online in Japan, but did in EU/US.

        All press releases (most of which have been from Japan) have said there will be online play, so I see no reason why they'd go back on that.

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          Originally posted by Yoshimax View Post
          I think he was probably alluding to the fact it was promised as part of GT4 but failed to materialise and is still to do so.
          Not in a retail capacity, but Polyphony did make 5000 copies of GT4 Online Test Version.

          Here's a video of Rally driver, S?bastien Loeb playing it.

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            Don't think Sony or Polyphony would dare release GT5P without online play from the off. 99% sure it's in the demo out in ten days time so no reason it won't be in the full GT5P release.

            Thanks for the links Kubrick.

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              Originally posted by huxley View Post
              Still, its gonna be better than the PGR rehash out at the moment.
              Jesus, I only wish you were kidding; PGR4's come a long way since MS-R: bikes, weather, online, whole new cities, professional race tracks, new racing modes like the cone challenges, damage..

              The only thing they've improved in Gran Turismo is the graphics, and even that seemed to be at the expense of actual content in GT3's case.

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                And that's something that Polyphony are unapologetic about, and pretty much always have been.



                Kikizo: Could you give us your opinion on Forza MotorSport 2 for the Xbox 360, and in particular, the ability to reskin your car in very great detail - are you going to have this degree of superficial car customisation in GT5?

                Yamauchi: Straight off the bat, I think that in terms of feature sets, Forza is ahead of us. They have more options, you can do basically anything. We take a different approach obviously - we try to concentrate on what are the core values for a racing game, and we try to elevate those standards up as high as we possibly can.

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                  Originally posted by Roddie View Post
                  Jesus, I only wish you were kidding; PGR4's come a long way since MS-R: bikes, weather, online, whole new cities, professional race tracks, new racing modes like the cone challenges, damage..

                  The only thing they've improved in Gran Turismo is the graphics, and even that seemed to be at the expense of actual content in GT3's case.
                  90% of that was in PGR1 and 2 its been downhill from there imoh

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                    Originally posted by dvdmike View Post
                    90% of that was in PGR1 and 2 its been downhill from there imoh

                    For me PGR4 has brought the PGR series right back on track, I adored 1 and 2 and didn't like 3 at all, this is far more like PGR2 and that can only be a good thing.

                    I'll be interested to see what GT5 Prologue will be like and shall try it out on my mates machine when it's out but I expect it to be as dull as all the other entries in the series, I hope to be proven wrong.
                    Last edited by mr_woo; 11-10-2007, 22:08.

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                      But Pgr4 just appears to be rain rain and more rain

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                        I take it you didn't manage to find the weather option then? Even the demo had sun, overcast, rain (good implementation with the standing water) and snow.

                        John

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                          PGR4 is exemplary - I'll be surprised if GT holds interest once people have become desensitised to the graphics if the game is simply more of the same (which, from that quote, sounds very likely).

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                            They're different games. The majority of the media reaction to PGR4 has been 'more of the same' (with sites oddly putting down the stellar graphics), though I was impressed with the demo personally. I think most people have burnout towards PGR4 because it's so soon after Forza.

                            As for GT5. Kaz Yamauchi has the right argument when he defends how they probably won't be hitting every base, but Polyphony will need to back it up (the quality over quantity line).
                            Last edited by Concept; 12-10-2007, 08:45.

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                              PGR4 and Forza are totally different games too.

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                                Aye, I'm just commenting on the reaction. Some people are approaching it as the 'big Microsoft realistic racing franchise the sequel' for this year.

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