Nintendo Wii U

[nem]

At the moment the ZombiU package seems to represent the best value considering you're getting the game and a Pro Controller for an extra ?40.

The ZombiU package has ZombiU in place of Nintendo Land. So you're really only getting the controller for the extra ?40.

[_SD_]

Ah, didn't realise that. Thanks for pointing it out.

I'll probably just go for a Premium and get the game separately then. Although I really do like it in white.....

[laruso]

im sure i read that the zombi u version is the premium (inc nintendoland) and the zombie u game and new joypad

[nem]

From NoE tweet

"The ZombiU Pack is like the #WiiU Premium Pack but instead of Nintendo Land it includes the #ZombiU game and a black Wii U Pro Controller. "

Maybe they cocked up

[originalbadboy]

The ZombiU package has ZombiU in place of Nintendo Land. So you're really only getting the controller for the extra ?40.

I don't think that's right The ZombiU package is a Premium console + ZombiU + Pro controller ... The premium package comes with NintendoLand as default so it should be included. If not then there are going to be a lot of disappointed and more to the point angry mislead people.

[laruso]

has anywhere said what the battery life is on the gamepad? its gonna be ****e if i want to play a game for an evening only for it to conk out after 3hrs, and need 6hrs to charge.

[mission]

I don't think that's right The ZombiU package is a Premium console + ZombiU + Pro controller ... The premium package comes with NintendoLand as default so it should be included. If not then there are going to be a lot of disappointed and more to the point angry mislead people.

https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/246602439728435201

[Daragon]

The ironic thing here is that Nintendo claimed that they were going to learn from the mistakes of the 3DS launch pricing. By again refusing to price it themselves, they're absconding from blame and allowing retailer greed to rear it's ugly head again. History is repeating and Nintendo are once again in danger of becoming their old rivals Sega. Was going to see about getting one to enjoy over Christmas but that won't be happening now. If they want to retain their "one generation behind" stance then they need to realize that superior gaming machines are now about half this price.

What is the point of next gen hardware if you're not going to produce next gen software for it? Is the Wii-U even "Next Gen" hardware? A 720p port of an almost 12 month old game would suggest not.

[ETC]

There will be a lot of day one buyers but I think they will be surprised by how many fence sitters there will be this time, a lot of my friends that are gamers are adopting the same approach as me (wait and see), maybe im just getting old in that I don't feel like I must own all 3 of the systems on day 1 any more. Having said I already know when I'll fold and buy one, sub ?150 or Zelda
HD but this time (and it applies to all of them Sony, Nintendo, MS, Ouya) I'm waiting for some good stuff to appear on tthem before I buy missed far too many XBOX and PS2 classics by being an early next gen jumper last time

[JSR]

The ironic thing here is that Nintendo claimed that they were going to learn from the mistakes of the 3DS launch pricing. By again refusing to price it themselves, they're absconding from blame and allowing retailer greed to rear it's ugly head again. History is repeating and Nintendo are once again in danger of becoming their old rivals Sega. Was going to see about getting one to enjoy over Christmas but that won't be happening now. If they want to retain their "one generation behind" stance then they need to realize that superior gaming machines are now about half this price.

What is the point of next gen hardware if you're not going to produce next gen software for it? Is the Wii-U even "Next Gen" hardware? A 720p port of an almost 12 month old game would suggest not.

Yeah, it could be cheaper, it could have more launch games, and many times as many people would want it at launch. But if Nintendo can only produce 3 million consoles before the year is over, why lose money over making the console attractive to more than 3 million people? I'm sure they will sell out all their stock at the current price. Next year console availability will be better, and then they will announce more titles and maybe a price drop to grow their market. Usual launch tactic. Even Michael "Always right" Pachter agrees on this: http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-2013-pachter/

[teddymeow]

The way I see it is: I want one, I've paid a deposit to guarantee myself one for launch day. If launch day comes around and I don't feel 100% comfortable with the price I will wait until April-ish next year and get one for my Birthday.

Saying that I've got ?200 on a Game giftcard so really it's only ?110!!

If you try to justify it to yourself you shouldn't be doing it, right?

[Daragon]

I tried to justify a 3DS XL to myself. The difference in that case was that I loved the Dsi XL that much I had to have a 3DS that sat nicer in the hands. I didn't buy it for the games as I already had something which would play them, which is exactly the same situation here.

Except I can't use a Wii-U on a bus.

[originalbadboy]

What is the point of next gen hardware if you're not going to produce next gen software for it? Is the Wii-U even "Next Gen" hardware? A 720p port of an almost 12 month old game would suggest not.

Since when has launch titles ever pushed hardware to any degree .. Most of the 360 launch titles could have been done on the xbox with relative ease.

I wouldn't consider the WiiU next gen hardware as the GPU is only DX10 equivalent so its going to struggle, saying that its certainly going to be more capable than current gen hardware seeing as its 7 years old. It's a not quite next gen but still better than what we have got gen machine.

[ETC]

Yeah, it could be cheaper, it could have more launch games, and many times as many people would want it at launch. But if Nintendo can only produce 3 million consoles before the year is over, why lose money over making the console attractive to more than 3 million people? I'm sure they will sell out all their stock at the current price. Next year console availability will be better, and then they will announce more titles and maybe a price drop to grow their market. Usual launch tactic. Even Michael "Always right" Pachter agrees on this: http://www.computerandvideogames.com...-2013-pachter/

Or they could sell the 3 million systems by using the same supply restriction trick they did with the wii launch, or sit on their hands and release very little for a year then loose their 12-18 month launch lead (just like the dreamcast did) and by the time they have some software and a more attractive price to the general public it will be launch time for the NextBox and PS4 and if either of them come in lower that the Wii-U (assuming it will still be ?250 and ?300) or a AAA game like MGS5, Halo 5, Uncharted 4 etc etc they will be screwed..

Not that they can do any wrong in your eyes it could launch for a grand and demand you give them your left testicle and I'm pretty sure you would find a way to defend it but in all seriousness it's priced just out of impulse purchase price (everyone knows sub ?200 is golden for a console launch just look at the 3dsxl launch compared to the 3ds or vita launch)has far too many unknowns for my liking we know nothing about region coding, battery life of the tablet controller and if it will have long term 3rd party software support or if it's goodnight the minute next gen hits. I'll look forward to reading your review of the hardware and launch stuff though

[Daragon]

Since when has launch titles ever pushed hardware to any degree .. Most of the 360 launch titles could have been done on the xbox with relative ease.

I wouldn't consider the WiiU next gen hardware as the GPU is only DX10 equivalent so its going to struggle, saying that its certainly going to be more capable than current gen hardware seeing as its 7 years old. It's a not quite next gen but still better than what we have got gen machine.

How's that exactly? Pretty sure ME3 plays in 1080p on the 360. Conflicting reports state the Wii-U is 1.5x as powerful as the 360, yet there are others stating it is infact less powerful - where do we officially stand? Given the fact that it's Nintendo and their desire to further alienate the hard core market would suggest that power is once again taking a back seat to innovation.