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    #91
    Its interesting to hear everyones opinions on this whether you agree with them or not. Obviously we're all gamers but our consumption of games differs drastically so you have to consider that as well... the one thing we all are though is consumers in this market so I would say if you do feel so opposed to such a venture then speak with your wallets.

    Most of you directly opposed have already said this but I would stick to your guns. If it means it directs you towards the competition then so be it... in the end if it makes a difference we will all surely benefit.

    At least from current rumour MS will be finally unveiling their plans by the end of this month. So at least we wont all be in the dark and can use real information more than just pure speculation.

    I am sure Microsoft have looked into this avenue but I'm still personally not expecting it to even reach retail. The back-lash would just be too great a risk given that Sony have come out and openly said they wont be doing it (even though I am sure they've also considered it). Hell even if it did make it to market I am sure if sales numbers were down at launch and correlated directly to this decision they'd just turn it off.

    The one thing we can agree on is that the next 6-9 months in the run up to launch for PS4 and Xbox3 are going to be very interesting. The PS3 seems to have performed very well all round even though the Xbox 360 had a time to market advantage. I know coming home to the UK it seems that the PS3 is more popular. Over here in Australia I'd say the 360 is out in front and of course the US is mostly 360 and Japan is wholly PS3.

    Whatever decisions these companies make for any successor they'd want to be placing themselves in a position to capture market percentage. It's all well and good having a console which erradicates pre-owned titles and secures revenues with every game but its pointless if the installed user-base is 80% less as a result.

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      #92
      Originally posted by nonny View Post
      I know coming home to the UK it seems that the PS3 is more popular. Over here in Australia I'd say the 360 is out in front and of course the US is mostly 360 and Japan is wholly PS3.
      Interesting you should say that, Microsoft have the UK sewn up and have done almost the entire generation. The rest of europe is a different story though.

      Here are jan/febs games sales.

      Code:
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      Units		Jan '12		Jan '13
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      Xbox 360	860K		810K
      PS3		575K		545K
      PC		310K		230K
      Wii		535K		180K
      NDS		310K		140K
      3DS		160K		110K
      PSV		---		 45K
      Wii U		---		 35K
      PSP		 30K		 15K
      PS2		  5K		  0K
      
      ---------------------------------------
      Revenue		Jan '12		Jan '13
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      Xbox 360	?20.9mm		?20.0mm
      PS3		?13.4mm		?12.9mm
      PC		 ?4.1mm		 ?3.0mm
      Wii		?10.8mm		 ?3.4mm
      NDS		 ?5.1mm		 ?2.2mm
      3DS		 ?4.5mm		 ?2.9mm
      PSV		---		 ?1.1mm
      Wii U		---		 ?1.2mm
      PSP		 ?0.4mm		 ?0.1mm
      PS2		 ?0.0mm		 ?0.0mm
      
      ---------------------------------------
      Units		Feb '12		Feb '13
      ---------------------------------------
      Xbox 360	715K		715K
      PS3		550K		530K
      PC		250K		215K
      Wii		320K		125K
      NDS		240K		110K
      3DS		120K		 90K
      PSV		---		 35K
      Wii U		---		 25K
      PSP		 25K		 10K
      PS2		  0K		  0K
      
      ---------------------------------------
      Revenue		Feb '12		Feb '13
      ---------------------------------------
      Xbox 360	?19.4mm		?19.9mm
      PS3		?15.0mm		?14.4mm
      PC		 ?3.2mm		 ?3.0mm
      Wii		 ?6.6mm		 ?2.3mm
      NDS		 ?3.9mm		 ?1.7mm
      3DS		 ?3.5mm		 ?2.3mm
      PSV		 ?3.0mm		 ?0.8mm
      Wii U		---		 ?0.8mm
      PSP		 ?0.3mm		 ?0.1mm
      PS2		 ?0.0mm		 ?0.0mm
      
      ---------------------------------------
      Units		YTD '12		YTD '13
      ---------------------------------------
      Xbox 360	1570K		1530K
      PS3		1120K		1075K
      PC		 565K		 445K
      Wii		 855K		 305K
      NDS		 545K		 250K
      3DS		 280K		 200K
      PSV		  95K		  80K
      Wii U		---		  60K
      PSP		  55K		  20K
      PS2		   5K		   5K
      
      ---------------------------------------
      Revenue		YTD '12		YTD '13
      ---------------------------------------
      Xbox 360	?40.4mm		?39.9mm
      PS3		?28.3mm		?27.3mm
      PC		 ?7.3mm		 ?6.0mm
      Wii		?17.4mm		 ?5.7mm
      NDS		 ?9.0mm		 ?3.9mm
      3DS		 ?8.0mm		 ?5.2mm
      PSV		 ?3.0mm		 ?1.9mm
      Wii U		---		 ?2.0mm
      PSP		 ?0.6mm		 ?0.2mm
      PS2		 ?0.0mm		 ?0.0mm
      Last edited by EvilBoris; 08-04-2013, 00:14.

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        #93
        Regardless of a Microsoft console being my only means of playing Perfect Dark (in HD) I won't be buying one.

        That's how stern I am against this kind of thing.

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          #94
          Interesting figures... I only meant in terms of what my friends back there own. Seems most that dont own both a 360/PS3 have chosen to go with just the PS3 this time around.

          I ended up buying 360 first (mainly because it was out first and the PS3 was pricey to begin with), I only bought a PS3 about 2 years into its life and mainly to use it as a blu-ray player in my setup. This time around they'll both offer blu-ray so really for my usage I'm not sure which would be my lead platform but I will most likely end up getting both for exclusives.

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            #95
            The XB360 got a head start, but due to flaky hardware and dropping prices the PS3 has caught up nicely. Most of my friends have switched over, as did I as soon as I could afford to. The region free friendliness of the PS3 just makes sense to me.

            With all this talk about always on, has any mention been made of region status. This Gen has been fairly open with only Nintendo locking it down. I hope this continues with PS4.

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              #96
              To be honest it doesn't matter what Microsoft do for their next console. I just don't like them. And it's beyond anything I can even explain at this point. I've just left them behind and that's it.

              I'll probably just stick to pc now but could still be tempted by ps4 if Sony show some good exclusives (my definition of good probably won't match that of the masses either).

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                #97
                Originally posted by FSW View Post
                To be honest it doesn't matter what Microsoft do for their next console. I just don't like them.

                I'll probably just stick to pc now
                A PC running a Microsoft OS ... Some irony there.

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                  #98
                  Really pleased to see people genuinely worried and angry about this...

                  Having posted about DRM in the past, and why it will be the death of the hobby we love...I often received hysterical responses on here.

                  I once suggested we were slowly sleepwalking into a completely restrictive hobby with DRM designed only to rip us off & infringe upon our consumer rights. With the new XBOX, if the rumours are true, that time is here...but I fear those who failed to take a stand in the past have doomed us all. The sky's ahead are dark my friends. Worrying times.

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                    #99
                    well i have to say i am still worried about THIS gen aswell

                    When i consider the amount of dlc/updates i have got and i worry if i still will be able to get access to them in say 10 years

                    As someone said earlier licensing would be a issue wasen't there problems with doom/outrun and some other games because of that ?

                    Also take a game like borderlands 2 or perhaps even skyrim now there may be game of the year editions which contain all updates but there may be some games out there where i can perhaps play the basic game but not be able to get the addons and more importantly the patches

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                      Originally posted by originalbadboy View Post
                      A PC running a Microsoft OS ... Some irony there.
                      True. But win 7 is ok and more open than xbox or ps

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                        If the rumored locking down of games is a success on the next Xbox what would stop Microsoft from doing the same with Windows Blue?

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                          Got DoA 5 for PS3 yesterday, not an old game. It simply would not install the 260mb update needed to play the game and kept resetting to dash. I had to unplug to internet to at least give it a go.

                          Thank heavens for always on.

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                            Originally posted by CMcK View Post
                            If the rumored locking down of games is a success on the next Xbox what would stop Microsoft from doing the same with Windows Blue?
                            That's how PC is already. Difference is twofold though: Steam is proven tech whereas everyone else has ballsed it up when they've tried (in my experience - Telltale, EA, ubisoft) and PC games become ?20 in absolutely no time so the concept of a long-term rental isn't as bad at that price. I rarely pay more than a tenner for a PC game though.

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                              Just a quick question...

                              Is there original XBOX DLC now lost forever to legitimate customers since they shut down the servers?

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                                Originally posted by 25.05.2005 View Post
                                Just a quick question...

                                Is there original XBOX DLC now lost forever to legitimate customers since they shut down the servers?
                                Does anyone really care would probably be my response to that.

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