Nintendo WiiU : Thread 04

[Brad]

Having a PS4 is the only way to play those games on the bog (Vita remote play). Argument over, console war won lol.

[wakka]

The Wii U has a 1" larger screen for toilet-based play. See you all next gen.

[PaTaito]

Those games are on PS3 and 360, so it's not the most compelling reason to buy a console. Whereas the Wii U's key games are exclusive.

It's a totally pointless argument though. Like, my console is better than yours? Errrrr because it is? *waves dick*

I have all three lol.

Just pointing out that if nintendo are willing to release a 2ds, then a wiiU with a pro controller instead of the gamepad is a possibility...

Yeah those games are on old gen machines, but for bf4 in particular i wouldnt even want to try it on ps3/360, such is the scale of the game on ps4....same for ac4 which actually has a stable framerate and 1080p.

Point taken mind.

[Neon Ignition]

I think WiiU has been the final lesson for me in teaching me it's time to not buy a Nintendo console in year one of its life, I love it but considering the discounts available with a thorough look and those likely due to arrive in the coming months it wasn't a good investment for the price its aimed at. However, after a few weeks caning 7 I'm very much looking forward to Mario Kart 8

[Team Andromeda]

It's not an investment, an investment is something that will grow in value over time

That doesn't work for consoles at all ; Some of the best selling and best ever consoles never hold their retail value . The likes of SNES, MD, PS, PS2 can be picked up for peanuts compared to the their retail costs when they were launched or through out most of their life cycles as a going concern

And I'm not confident in the Wii-U's third-party support because it's not the Wii

A year down the line it will be next to non existent. Then I do wonder who'll be the idiots stuck with a worthless console with next to no 3rd party support and limited choice

[JU!]

I know people that own it that don't understand it, guy at work got one for his son for Christmas

Him "Can I just get the tablet separately as I have a wii allready"

Me "No it's a new console the pad is just the new controller"

Him "can he take his wiiu pad with him in the car"

Me "No it has to be in range of the wiiu "

I was in Sainsburys today and in the video game section a mother said to her 6 (ish) year old:-

Mum - Haven't we got a Wii U?
Kid - No, we have a Wii.
Mum - What is the difference?
Kid - It's just a Wii but you can play games on the tablet.
Mum - Oh right, well we have an iPad so I guess we do not need to buy that

I also had this just yesterday. I had to explain to my firend what a Wii U was. She thought it was just a controller that attached to your Wii. I also think that having to explain that although the Wii remotes work it, is a new machine.

The fact that Nintendo did not think ths through and make the actual machine stand out is part of the problem. Massive pictures of the controller and nothing else. I remember at E3 the adverts just showing the controller and virtually ignoring the machine.

[chipsgravy]

I've lost count of the people that I had to explain Wii U to. But then I also have had to explain 2DS as a lot of my friends thought I was talking about the DS. Nintendo have really lost their way with marketing. And maybe naming consoles. But regardless I never regret buying a Nintendo machine if just for the exclusives I would be happy.

[Guts]

That doesn't work for consoles at all ; Some of the best selling and best ever consoles never hold their retail value . The likes of SNES, MD, PS, PS2 can be picked up for peanuts compared to the their retail costs when they were launched or through out most of their life cycles as a going concern

Which is why buying an expensive piece of hardware with no great games is foolish.

[nakamura]

SNES can be picked up for peanuts? What?

[Sam The Man]

For me it's more about the software than the hardware. It can be the coolest, best console ever, but if there isn't a game I really really want to play, I'm not interested.

Yeah but i think for the masses it's the opposite. If the machine is attractive and offers many forms of entertainment they will be more interested in purchasing it than a machine that appears to the uninformed as a kids toy even if that kids toy has a larger amount of quality titles. Look at the Gamecube, it had a huge selection of great games but that didn't really sell the Gamecube in large numbers did it? The cube at the time also APPEARED to be a weaker childs machine compared to the mature powerful PS2 & XBOX. Thats what i meant when i said the hardware in general sells the software.

[randombs]

SNES can be picked up for peanuts? What?

Yep! And if you pay peanuts, you get...

DANKEY KANGS

[jim g]

We might have grown up with Ninty, but today's teenagers are growing up with ps and xbox. Mario is not cool anymore and dads want ps and xbox to,play cod, FIFA etc. A generalist I know but sales figures support the theory

[PaTaito]

Which is why buying an expensive piece of hardware with no great games is foolish.

Except it isn't is it....

With microsoft and sony you at least know for a fact that games are going to roll in thick and fast.

Without big 3rd party support though, what value can any console really be?...especially with 1st party titles so slow to trickle out.

Even at ?200 for WiiU, its still ?200 for something that isn't guaranteed to be on shelves by the time the year is out, by which time the others will be fully established and pumping out games ten to the dozen.

[randombs]

The argument about spending that much on hardware is because by the time the truly decent stuff comes out those consoles should be a fair bit cheaper. So buying them now for the sake of early adoption is silly. Fair enough, although there will still be great games coming out this year for both consoles.

I'm no stranger to backing the wrong horse, having owned a Saturn and Dreamcast, so I've no problem with getting value from a 'dead' console.

...if nintendo are willing to release a 2ds, then a wiiU with a pro controller instead of the gamepad is a possibility...

But the 2DS and 3DS don't split their userbase as much as a Wii-U+gamepad and a Wii-U+pro controller would.

Devs might think 3D is less important if there are tons of 2DSs doing the rounds but 2D has been available on the 3DS since the beginning so they're are already acquainted with it.

Whatever people's opinions of the gamepad, it's an integral part of the Wii-U experience. The Wii-U is the gamepad.

[dataDave]

by which time the others will be fully established and pumping out games ten to the dozen.

Yeah, all those quality games.