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    Banned from PES 2014 (PC)

    Just wondering what the community on here thought of this.

    I bought PES 2014 just after launch on the PC and was banned around 1 month ago for 'intentional worsening of connection' to win games.

    Now, I know this may fall on hollow ears to the skeptical, but I 100% promise you, that no cheating of any kind has ever taken place on my PES account. I can't stress that enough. Whether you believe me or not, if you can just assume this is true for the purpose of the thread.

    The full story:

    I was playing the game pretty intensely, and was very high up in the rankings. I absolutely loved it and every spare moment I had was spent playing the game.

    I logged in one day to find I was banned.

    I contacted Konami.

    They informed me that 'due to user reports', I had been banned for 'worsening of connection.' (an irony in itself considering the horrendous online Konami provided at launch.)

    I argued that these reports were wrong, and perhaps vindictive in nature (I had been naming cheats myself in my user information, and had recently got into a bitter argument on a dedicated PES forum where my username was open for all, I also mentioned that the PES community wasn't really much of a community in terms of its friendliness and honesty.)

    I asked 3 times for more evidence, knowing full well of my innocence. I was ignored each time, Konami stating 'user reports'. No further evidence was provided to me. They simply stated the decision was final.

    I raised the following points with them after contacting the CBA:

    1. These reports were completely untrue. I asked them multiple times for more evidence other than said reports, and I was ignored each time. I put it to them that no further evidence exists, as I am certain a complete miscarriage of justice has taken place.
    2. Therefore, features advertised to me before purchase of the game have been taken away without due explanation.
    3. They are in breach of their own conditions as service, as linked to me by themselves in a help ticket. If any cheating was taking place (which it was not); I should have been warned first, then suspended for a shorter period of time if cheating was continuing, and then, if cheating continued...suspended for the time period that I received.
    4. Konami's terms and conditions are worthless if they are unfair, misrepresent or enforced without due care.
    5. Requests on how to avoid such measures in the future were ignored.


    I also took advice from a close personal friend of mine who worked for Blizzard on WoW in regards to such matters. He informed me that in that game, if any accusation was to take place in that game, the utmost care would be taken when investigating. Something that has obviously not occurred here as I am 100% certain of my innocence. Though they are slightly different situations in that WoW is subscription based whereas Konami already have my money.

    Upon receiving the above advice, I was advised to consider 3 options; to be completed amicably, via a mediation service or through legal avenues:

    1. Repeat my request for further, unequivocal evidence of my wrong doing.
    2. Seek financial compensation for my lost month.
    3. Seek a full refund of the product, accompanied by closure of my account and return of the product.


    As a long term fan, ISS/PES has permeated by entire life for 20 or so years, and I wouldn?t want to completely leave a series I have loved so much. But, I fear there is no choice, and their actions have resulted in the complete alienation of a loyal and honest member of your customer base.

    Question: Should I pursue this? Or am I overacting and have absolutely no chance of success? I absolutely hate injustice of any kind, I don't mind paying to see wrongs put right. By 'ban' is up in a few days but I am actually scared to play the game now and any enjoyment I had has been completely sucked out of me. My heart says keep at them, but my head says just walk away and buy FIFA (urrrrrrgh!)

    #2
    Play Fifa. Seems like Konami are taking massive ****s all over you but you still lap it up.

    Honestly, not trying to troll you here. Once you move over, no reason to return unless a miracle happens.

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      #3
      If you have the means then you should pursue it IMO. Companies cannot be allowed to get away with this stuff.

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        #4
        If it's any consolation, I believe you.

        Your avatar, previous posts about cheats and obvious frustration at the current situation makes me believe you.

        It sounds to me like the "community" is full of cheats and petty-minded players anyway, so I don't know why you're so upset about them and keen to start interacting with them again.

        You've had a good couple of months worth of play out of it and can start again if you want to soon, so I wouldn't bother getting so upset about it.

        Fire off a short email about how they've lost a life-long customer due to their inability to deal with this issue, to give yourself closure, then move on. There are a zillion other games you could be playing.

        Life's too short to get wound up about things like this.

        Carpe Diem - "Sieze the carp".
        Homer J. Simpson

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          #5
          Do they have a stupid "balancing" system or something to penalise those with good connections then? I'm pretty sure that's the reason I could never get a good KD in CODMW3 - my ping is ~14ms.

          They should ditch those and instead monitor ping before and during matches and then do matchmaking accordingly.

          As to your issue, I'd make at least an effort at getting my money back. They didn't follow their own guidelines.

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            #6
            You might also want to consider getting a number of people to tweat at Konami as the last thing they need is a bad press news story that said they are banning legit PES players. Also see if any of the main stream press want to take up your case.



            Sounds like a lot of sore losers marking you down.

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              #7
              Originally posted by nakamura View Post
              Play Fifa. Seems like Konami are taking massive ****s all over you but you still lap it up.

              Honestly, not trying to troll you here. Once you move over, no reason to return unless a miracle happens.
              It would be so much easier. Me and my best mate are 100% PES...always have been. We can play it do days straight, Exhibition match after exhibition match.

              But everyone else I know, especially online...is FIFA.

              It would make sense to switch, but I mean...I honestly really love PES. What I will do though is play a demo of FIFA 14 on the PS4...and if it is remotely good to me, I will strongly consider it. You know me, I am die hard PES, so that's a big deal for me to say.

              Agree with you QualityChimp, it's just hat PES is more than a game for me. I've been playing it for so long, it's hard not to get upset over it and it's even harder to say goodbye.

              Originally posted by charlesr View Post
              Do they have a stupid "balancing" system or something to penalise those with good connections then? I'm pretty sure that's the reason I could never get a good KD in CODMW3 - my ping is ~14ms.

              They should ditch those and instead monitor ping before and during matches and then do matchmaking accordingly.

              As to your issue, I'd make at least an effort at getting my money back. They didn't follow their own guidelines.
              Don't really know how it works. I have 72mb down and 16mb up at the moment, Ping of 12ms.

              What specifically happens with cheats on PES...is they 'worsen' the connection, and the result of the game is deemed void. So if you're beating them, they get the game voided in the last minute or so. It's been a major problem for years on PES. I honestly don't even know how to do it beyond putting on a load of downloads (but even then my ISP traffic shapes games above downloads so it wouldn't make much of a difference I don't think.).




              Originally posted by S3M View Post
              You might also want to consider getting a number of people to tweat at Konami as the last thing they need is a bad press news story that said they are banning legit PES players. Also see if any of the main stream press want to take up your case.



              Sounds like a lot of sore losers marking you down.
              The problem is though, how can I prove I'm not a cheater? All I have really is my word. Could end up just sounding like a cheat who is bitter for being banned.

              So frustrating!

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                #8
                It honestly depends if it's a battle you want to fight, one that you want to invest a huge amount of time and money into, with the risk of losing.

                The reality is that it may not be, no matter how much you love PES.

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                  #9
                  I'm suprised anyone at all plays PES anymore, especially now there's a FIFA game on the new console.

                  Obviously Konami don't care about their shrinking fan base either, if they are banning people for no reason.

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                    #10
                    It's not like Konami have got some PES court system going that reviews complaints and debates them in a little PES court of justice in front of a jury.

                    It's probably some automated system that sees a load of ban requests then acts upon them.

                    Maybe some people were tired of being trounced by the world's No.1 PES Player (non-cheating, PC division) and wanted to be best for a while!

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                      #11
                      **** konami, if you're innocent then why are you bitching? You given them your (I assume) hard earned cash over x years and they treat you like **** and you lap it up like a mindless slave? WTF.

                      Imagine this happened elsewhere? Like an iPhone fanboy getting bummed by Apple customer service or a loyal Tesco shopper getting unfairly banned from their local store?

                      Stop acting like a crack fiend and walk away!

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                        #12
                        I think all PES and FIFA fans should just play real football instead.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Party boy View Post
                          I think all PES and FIFA fans should just play real football instead.
                          And all racing fans should, err, drive around the block a couple of times instead?

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                            #14
                            I think most PES/Fifa fans do play at least a little real football tbh . . .

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Party boy View Post
                              I think all PES and FIFA fans should just play real football instead.
                              What about disabled PES and Fifa fans?

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