Nintendo WiiU : Thread 05

[Nu-Eclipse]

its's offsetting my growing suspicion that Starfox is the next delay title

No Starfox this year (alongside no Zelda this year) surely means that Nintendo have given up the ghost with Wii U?

[Neon Ignition]

It's not unheard of, but I'm just not feeling confident of Nintendo turning the game around that fast. Maybe as their May 2016 release, which would still meet their 'before Zelda' promise.

I think anything far enough along in development on WiiU will come and anything early will get bumped to NX now. Starfox should make it but I imagine it and Zelda will be the last games on it at best. I'll no doubt get an NX, but getting one at launch will be a big push... too burned by Wii and WiiU.

[Shozuki]

Starfox and Zelda cancelled for Wii U, instead NX titles.

You heard it here first folks...


Kidding, but that'd be the smart move imo...

[Nu-Eclipse]

Starfox should make it but I imagine it and Zelda will be the last games on it at best. I'll no doubt get an NX, but getting one at launch will be a big push... too burned by Wii and WiiU.

Oh, I don't think anybody (well, apart from probably Guts and Pikate! ) seriously expects anything other than Zelda and Starfox being Wii U swansong titles. Zelda has been a Nintendo home console swansong franchise since Twilight Princess (or was it Majora's Mask?), lest we forget.

I didn't get a Wii U at launch. I got mine last summer and, even now, I feel that I should've waited longer. I also can't see myself early-adopting NX unless Nintendo can provide the platform with a first-wave/year-one software line-up similar to that of the SNES/SFC (Still pretty much P4P the best Nintendo home console first-year software line-up ever).

[Pikate]

I still suspect NX might be a "home-capable-handheld" console (i.e the Nintendo Cross in the same sense as PS3/Vita Cross Buy) mostly because I don't think Nintendo themselves think they need anything more powerful than Wii U. They certainly don't have a recent history of graphical innovation. There's also a win-win in unifying or bridging the home and handheld consoles as it means they're developing one lot of games reducing development costs by half in real terms and also not pissing off Wii U owners or losing face abandoning that console.

I'm probably way wide of the mark on that but if Vita can run those crossbuy PS3 games Nintendo could make a handheld that runs low-rez Wii U games, even if they never advertised it as that because it couldn't run some current Wii U games I wouldn't put it past Nintendo just to dump these lower spec "NX" games in HD on Wii U so that can limp to the end of it's lifespan then making simple ports of Wii U games to give them a second life on handheld. They'd then just sell an NX add-on box (like an Apple TV that's a reverse Wii U setup upscaling the handheld NX graphics and outputting that through HDMI).

Oh, I don't think anybody (well, apart from probably Guts and Pikate! ) seriously expects anything other than Zelda and Starfox being Wii U swansong titles. Zelda has been a Nintendo home console swansong franchise since Twilight Princess (or was it Majora's Mask?), lest we forget.

And I also think Zelda will be the end of Wii U but I don't think there'll be another home console to replace it.

3DS is the older console. New 3DS came out at the same point in the 3DS's lifespan when DSi came out in the DS's. 3DS was rumoured shortly after DSi, the time scale for New 3DS and NX is almost exactly the same, history repeating?

[Neon Ignition]

I think I'd feel confident that a Nintendo handheld was next if the WiiU hadn't failed so massively. Typically I think Nintendo would have waited and done a handheld next as per usual but the state of the WiiU will probably have forced them to move up their schedule and rely on the stability of 3DS for longer. The handheld business is pretty much their saving grace but even that isn't as big as it once was so I can't imagine Nintendo throwing their weight solely into that market is what they'd do, which is pretty much what a handheld/console hybrid is (i.e simply a handheld that plugs into your TV). It's effectively the same as them bowing out of the living room space altogether and I can't picture it as anything other than a kiss of death to the company if it ever plans on being in the same circles as its two rivals again.

I don't think there's any risk of them not doing a console and I'm guessing NX will be one, just one designed with much higher compatibility with handhelds etc in mind to take on aspects Sony and MS aren't in a position to. It allows Nintendo to throw something out there, make an impression and not risk the 3DS for now. If it fails, they get to release 3DS2, if it succeeds, they get to release DS-NX, probably the same handheld but branded accordingly.

Zelda... as it's been so publicly shown, I'm assuming would copy Twilights release plan. Starfox though... either way at this point.

I'm guessing this Xmas for WiiU will be all about Project Zero 5, Xenoblade Chronicles X and Devil's Third. Though I expect in reality it will involve the big N pimping 3DS and Amiibo hard and loud and not really acknowledging the WiiU much publicly.

[fishbowlhead]

No announcement for Xenoblade cronicles x in eu wasn't a good sign either.

[Neon Ignition]

I think that'll be their big E3 confirmation, a fairly full western rollout. With Zelda gone it's the only big budget game the system has coming. Kind of worked out well for the game really as otherwise I think it would have gone by fairly low key like the first entry but with nothing else due at the end of the year Nintendo can throw its weight behind it. I doubt it'll shift systems but hopefully it'll shift well enough to existing owners and keep the franchise going for fans.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Devil's Third? Pardon my ignorance but is that even still a thing?

[Neon Ignition]

Who knows Gotta be make or break for it at this years E3

[Nu-Eclipse]

Sounds like it's well on the way to, if not already in, development hell to me.

[dataDave]

Seriously?

Believe it or not, nobody's actually forcing you to follow through and act like some sort of resident keyboard warrior on here.

Don't like my opinion about your precious MK8? Tough. If you don't want to "go over this again", then pipe down.

Simples.

Your opinion, regarding item balancing, happens to be flat-out disinformation when advising someone who?s thinking about getting into the game. The only reason I rise to your vitriol is because everyone else seems tired in doing so after having to state the same facts time and time again.

However, there?s a difference between talking ****, and talking **** with a gun in your mouth.

We?ve already invited you on several occasions to come online and prove to us just how imbalanced the item draw is. Even if it?s a game of slight chance, come online and prove it. From my own experience after overly extensive play time with the same group of thirty or so people this is simply not the case, people who are well versed with the drifting mechanics and track dynamic always come out on top. Even a ?perfect? item draw has very little effect on the leaderboard.

But hey, there?s got to be a reason why fifty or so French people still play SMK competitively, right?

[Nu-Eclipse]

Your opinion, regarding item balancing, happens to be flat-out disinformation when advising someone who’s thinking about getting into the game. The only reason I rise to your vitriol is because everyone else seems tired in doing so after having to state the same facts time and time again.

However, there’s a difference between talking ****, and talking **** with a gun in your mouth.

We’ve already invited you on several occasions to come online and prove to us just how imbalanced the item draw is. Even if it’s a game of slight chance, come online and prove it. From my own experience after overly extensive play time with the same group of thirty or so people this is simply not the case, people who are well versed with the drifting mechanics and track dynamic always come out on top. Even a ‘perfect’ item draw has very little effect on the leaderboard.

But hey, there’s got to be a reason why fifty or so French people still play SMK competitively, right?

Wow, for a moment there I actually thought you were going to have another hugely childish and pathetic man-strop and challenge me to a game of MK8 for the umpteenth time?

Clearly, the monopoly of talking sh1t or dishing out snide and vitriol doesn't just lay with me - you're clearly perfectly capable of it on this evidence. You've also become deluded enough to think that you somehow actually speak for everybody else on here!

PLENTY of people on this forum have said similar about MK8 - search the damn forum for proof of this. It's funny that you're not rushing to have stupid keyboard warrior battles with them about it and/or childishly challenging them to games every other post.

Guess what? They, like me, have opinions that differ from yours here on a public forum. Fancy that! But extra points for accusing me of talking sh1t or "flat-out disinformation" ( ) whilst acting like your opinion is somehow the gospel truth and/or fact (ironic much?), as if you helped develop the game with EAD in the first f*cking place!?

I couldn't give a sh1t if you want to challenge me to MK8 online. I'm really sorry that you can't handle me criticizing and/or finding any fault with your beloved MK8. But if you can't handle that then that's your problem and not mine. Again, if you don't like it then pipe down, because I can say what the hell I please about MK8 after playing it extensively - its gameplay experience isn't uniform for everybody who plays it.

[fishbowlhead]

I say you guys sort this out with mk8 grudge match. The looser never gets to post in this thread again.

[dataDave]

Wow, for a moment there I actually thought you were going to have another hugely childish and pathetic man-strop and challenge me to a game of MK8 for the umpteenth time?

You mean the second time?

The rest of what you wrote is just pure over-reactive bile. However, until you come online and back-up your opinion with game play examples then it will be forever invalid.

Come online and beat us with your blue shell. That's all I'm asking. There's no need to get all offensive like a fifteen year-old.