Nintendo WiiU : Thread 05

[Dogg Thang]

Well they spent 10 odd years on Majora's Mask 3D

How..?

[randombs]

Gestation, like wakka said.

I read gestation as procrastination.

[Dogg Thang]

Gestation is a pretty meaningless term in this context - you're right, it's procrastination. A guy could have the idea for a MM remake, make a note, remind himself of it every couple of months and begin work 10 years later and hammer it out in a week and we could call it 10 years gestation. Doesn't really mean it took 10 years to make.

[fishbowlhead]

Nintendo are good at procrastination on small projects.

[wakka]

Don't have a go at me...I'm not the one gestating

Nintendo are slowwwwww to do stuff, but I don't think it's necessarily the worst thing. Activision would've made Mario an annualised franchise and run it into the ground within about 5 years.

[Dogg Thang]

Yeah, there's slow and then there is inefficient though. The one thing some of the early droughts demonstrate is a lack of preparation for the launch of their own hardware. It's like they spend a few years developing hardware and then release that hardware and then someone has a think... takes a sip of coffee... thinks some more and then says, "so should we start making games for this now?".

[fishbowlhead]

Yeah, there's slow and then there is inefficient though. The one thing some of the early droughts demonstrate is a lack of preparation for the launch of their own hardware. It's like they spend a few years developing hardware and then release that hardware and then someone has a think... takes a sip of coffee... thinks some more and then says, "so should we start making games for this now?".

Can only agree with this on the wiiu & the wii, total lack of preperation.

Edit. One thing that really annoys me with Nintendo is seeing miyamoto messing around with stupid robot demos and camera tech demos, stuff that is never going to come out or be bothered with by them, and bigger projects being pushed back. Efficiency guys, focus!

['Press Start']

Nintendo delivered a confused message with the Wii U. This lost them the massive casual following they gathered with the Wii as casuals saw no need for a tablet when they already owned an iPad.

I am glad Zelda has been pushed back as the Wii U is underpowered for a game of this scope (imo). Sure Mario 3D land looks amazing but it does not deliver scope on the level the new Zelda proposes, especially if they want to keep the magical 60fps. If the new Zelda is going to be a launch title for the NX then it has to be a OOT beater, those are the stakes Nintendo has to deal with.

[fishbowlhead]

Nintendo delivered a confused message with the Wii U. This lost them the massive casual following they gathered with the Wii as casuals saw no need for a tablet when they already owned an iPad.

I am glad Zelda has been pushed back as the Wii U is underpowered for a game of this scope (imo). Sure Mario 3D land looks amazing but it does not deliver scope on the level the new Zelda proposes, especially if they want to keep the magical 60fps. If the new Zelda is going to be a launch title for the NX then it has to be a OOT beater, those are the stakes Nintendo has to deal with.

To be honest after completing black flag on the wiiu and seeing the size of the game world in that and the detail, and despite my previous comments on the wiiu not being able to do zelda to the fidelity shown in the vids, I think EAD 1 could do it quite easily now. It's just how long it will take.

[Nu-Eclipse]

I'd rather see a HD rerelease of Sunshine

Me too. As much as Super Mario 64 redefined 3D platforming in a lot of ways back in 1996 (and yes, its full-control 3D camerawork remains the best of any 3D Mario title since), it looks pretty bland and basic nowadays and no HD remastering will change that imo.

Super Mario Sunshine in HD, however, would/could be an absolute visual feast. So much colour...

[Team Andromeda]

Nintendo delivered a confused message with the Wii U. This lost them the massive casual following they gathered with the Wii as casuals saw no need for a tablet when they already owned an iPad

You got to laugh really . Nintendo went from making a control that almost anybody could use thanks to simple design and lack of buttons (even ones grand and granddad could play the Wii ) to then making a controler so big and with so many buttons that even most gamers don't ike to use it and to make the Wii U so low spec just companded a dreadful situation.

Nintendo are so far behind the times in terms of 3rd party support, retail support , In-House and 1st development support , tech, Multi Media and online gaming for a home console - That its hard to see how they can ever get back to competing with SONY and MS . The problems are so big and so ingrained that just making a new console is hardly going to address many of Nintendo issues (non mobile/handheld) . I mean they haven't even got a phone app for the Wii U bless them .

[thetrooper]

Since when did having a phone app give you a better console experience?

I would be more inclined to get their online accounts system sorted; it's so poor that it's embarrassing.

[Nu-Eclipse]

Since when did having a phone app give you a better console experience?

My thoughts precisely!

And also, Nintendo EAD so far behind in terms of 1st-party in-house software development? Really?

[Team Andromeda]

Since when did having a phone app give you a better console experience?

Never said it gives you a better 'console experience' . But what having a app allows you to do is simple nice little things like being able to keep in touch with your online friends , to be able to control ones console downloads ect when you're away from able your console . Simple little featurs that even a 8 years old take for granted in the modern age, with their mobile and home systems .

[Nu-Eclipse]

Never said it gives you a better 'console experience' . But what having a app allows you to do is simple nice little things like being able to keep in touch with your online friends , to be able to control ones console downloads ect when you're away from able your console . Simple little featurs that even a 8 years old take for granted in the modern age, with their mobile and home systems .

Not being funny, but Sony and MS efforts in this area really haven't executed all that well.

I'd go with thetrooper in so far as that Nintendo have more immediate and pressing problems than worrying about phone apps that are largely (at this moment in time) more style than substance.