The age effect

[Team Andromeda]

Surely that the PS1 had more impact than the 3DO can't possibly be in question? You can dislike FF7, cool, bring up that so many things were done on other systems first, sure, but none of that will take away from the very basic impact that the PS1 had

And a hell of a lot of that was just down to flashy graphics and big PR pushes . Not much different from todays gaming at the end of the day . So it makes me laugh when I see people mon about this gen just being about shinny graphics and so on ..
The most creative generation was on the C64/ZX Spectrum and Amiga/ST days were you could games based around anything and everything you could think of thanks to being open platforms with no money men and quailty control getting in the way .

[dataDave]

Only an absolute nut-job would argue that FFVII wasn't 3D.

Whatever next?

[speedlolita]

Street Fighter 4 isn't 3D either.

[Team Andromeda]

Sega may have done some research on their Saturn pad but Sony had no issues selling their wares to 150m people.
Another cracking bit of business by Sega

Nintendo played its part too you know and made SONY enter the video game business which as no seen Nintendo become a nothing player in the console video game bunsienss for the main.

The Saturn pad is absolute crap for anything that isn't an arcade port

Well looking over the wind up .. I'll just say that Pazner Dragoon Zwei isn't a port and that plays amazing so does Tomb Raider .

[Team Andromeda]

Only an absolute nut-job would argue that FFVII wasn't 3D.

Whatever next?

Mario Kart 8 the best looking game this generation so far ? . And having Polygon graphics doesn't make a game 3D , what next Bug the worlds 1st 3D platform game ?

[Junko]

Generic FPS were the death of creativity

[dataDave]

Street Fighter 4 isn't 3D either.

The control isn't no, but the graphics certainly are.

FFVII has 3D characters and movement, and despite the backgrounds being pre-rendered a lot of them are composed of multiple planes which feature stairs, hills, ladders, platforms, you name it.

[speedlolita]

Yeah I know, I was being stupid.

Stupid like saying FFVII isn't 3D.

[Lebowski]

And a hell of a lot of that was just down to flashy graphics and big PR pushes . Not much different from todays gaming at the end of the day . So it makes me laugh when I see people mon about this gen just being about shinny graphics and so on ..
The most creative generation was on the C64/ZX Spectrum and Amiga/ST days were you could games based around anything and everything you could think of thanks to being open platforms with no money men and quailty control getting in the way .

because them games where coded in bedrooms and took a few weeks to make and could be done by one person, we still get that sort of thing today its called the indy scene, games like the Stanley parable, braid, fez, Hotline Miami, and a million others are all out there to sample all trying unique and different things.

I don't see how the c64/zx spetrum where any more diverse than today's offerings, if anything id say there where more limited, because of the tech of the time. its all very well looking back with rose tinted glasses, but the diversity your talking about is a platform game where you get to be a toilet instead of a man, or a shooter where you get to be a goat, its hardly any different to what your saying about today's games.

[Team Andromeda]

FFVII has 3D characters and movement, and despite the backgrounds being pre-rendered a lot of them are composed of multiple planes which feature stairs, hills, ladders, platforms, you name it.

So Bug Is the 1st 3D Platform game then ?

[dataDave]

Sorry. I can no longer tell between which people are being dumb and which people are being dumb for fun. This thread is a volatile melting pot of sarcasm and sheer stupidity.

[dataDave]

So Bug Is the 1st 3D Platform game then ?

Are you trying to get a rise out of me so that I post something completely and utterly offensive to the point where I get myself perma-banned?

I think I'll just break an 18 year tradition and finally use that ignore feature.

[Team Andromeda]

because them games where coded in bedrooms and took a few weeks to make and could be done by one person, we still get that sort of thing today its called the indy scene games like the Stanley parable, braid, fez, Hotline Miami, and a million others are all out there to sample all trying unique and difrent things

So then, creativilty is alive and well even today

I dont see how the c64/zx spetrum where any more diverse than today's offerings

Because you could make a game out of almost anything and any sport that cared to take your fancy. I mean would we ever get a game like Circus games (which I loved on my ST) made for the major platforms day ?

[Team Andromeda]

Are you trying to get a rise out of me so that I post something completely and utterly offensive to the point where I get myself perma-banned?

No it be nice to answer the question . Is Bug the worlds 1st '3D' Platform console game ?

[speedlolita]

No, that would be Jumping Flash.